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Geopolitical scientist Gilles Gressani, co-founder of the magazine Le Grand Continent**, poses this** "paradox" in the latest book of his journal devoted to the enemies of Europe, while China represents "half of what matters in geopolitics and economics".

Small moment of floating on the set of LCI, on May 28, during David Pujadas' daily show." I ask you the question around this table: who can mention the name of three living Chinese today?", says the presenter to his guests, journalists Ruth Elkrief (LCI), Jean Quatremer (Libération), Pascal Perri (TF1/LCI) and Thierry Fabre (Challenges). Embarrassed silence. We are thinking. We rack our brains. "There is Xi Jinping, the president," begins one of them. That will be all. To discover

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"There is a problem when cultured people, who are interested in international business, who read the press, have difficulty imagining the existence of three Chinese figures," says Gilles Gressani, director of the magazine Le Grand Continent. It is he who, in the introduction of the latest book published by his magazine, L'Ennemi qui nous désigne (Gallimard, 2026), poses this "paradox": China weighs "half of what counts in geopolitics and economics", but no one is able to sing three names of living Chinese. "We continue to totally ignore what is happening" "It says something fundamental," adds the essayist. "We live with mental representations that are those of the 20th century and the beginning of the 21st century. We still live in 2000, when in reality we are much closer to 2050." The book, which brings together several texts by "renowned sinologists and key doctrinaries of Xi Jinping", under the direction of the Italian-Swiss writer and political scientist Giuliano da Empoli, offers precisely an "exclusive file" on the Middle Kingdom. "If we feel such a vertigo in the face of the ongoing upheavals, it is perhaps because we still refuse to integrate a massive dimension of the contemporary: China," plants the presentation of the volume.

Gilles Gressani invites you to look at the "impressive" figures: between 2018 and 2019 alone, China produced more cement than the United States throughout the 20th century, he says. In addition, "more than half of AI research is done in China", and renewable energy installations are "vertiginous". "However, we continue to completely ignore what is happening," he notes.

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[–] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

Xi Jinping, Eileen Gu, and that lady singing in the field in those TikTok videos

[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 3 points 18 hours ago

the lady from "little chinese everywhere"

Chen Weihua

Nick Mullen

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

Start with Mao and when they say he's dead just look shocked and start sobbing uncontrollably.

[–] Krem@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Hate to say it but hexbear is not great at proving this guy wrong when i see a lot of "Xi Jinping, Jackie Chan" in the comments

we can all benefit from watching more Chinese news (CGTN is mostly in English and you can find many other channels with subtitles) and more Chinese pop culture (many subtitled TV shows on youtube, and many recent movies on streaming sites. a lot of music on youtube and other services)

maybe I'll make an effort thread about it with links and descriptions. but it's equally likely i'll forget about it ten minutes from now neuron-activation

EDIT: YAY I completed a task by focusing my brain on one thing

Can naming friends count? 😂

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

I mean I probably would have failed this test if you hit me with it live on the air but I'm also not pretending to be a China expert.

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[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Without looking I could come up with journalist Li Jingjing capitalist Jack Ma apart from Xi obviously. I knew about Ai Weiwei but does he count since he's mostly known for opposing China and living in the west?

Edit : should've known Liu Cixin, author of the Three Body Problem

[–] Pili@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

In the obvious ones we also have Jacky Chan and Jet Li. Like everyone knows Jacky Chan.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

The guy who does the hilarious trump impersonation in Chongqing.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reminded of that recent comment section on this site talking about how Soviet academics all read western capitalist economists and Western a ademics couldn't name Soviets they had read despite presuming they were the less propagandized.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

Not-a-spy Tom Clancy had to invent a Soviet super weapon for his book. Hunt for Red October only works if you believe the American version of history and it still had to invent a plot doohickey to make the reds sufficiently menacing. Got turned into a movie. But we’re not propagandized to.

[–] DornerStan@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 day ago

No mention of the goat Chen Weihua?

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 38 points 2 days ago

nobody in this thread mentioned Jack Ma yet and I had to double check if he was still alive

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Amanda Yee from Radio Free Amanda, Li Jingjing, Tings Chak, at least that I know as three living Chinese but that could be in doubt.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Without looking at the thread:

Politics:

  • Xi Jinping - President
  • Wang Huning - Chairman of the National Cmte (?) something like that
  • Li Qiang - Premier
  • Zhao Lijian - Some kind of diplomat with twitter
  • Hu Juntao - Former president

Business:

  • Jack Ma - Alibaba
  • Robin Li - Baidu

Art/Entertainment:

  • Jackie Chan
  • Yao Ming
  • Ai Weiwei
  • Jeremy Lin
  • Jet Li
  • Chow Yun Fat
  • Steven Chow
  • Michelle Yeoh
  • Zhang Ziyi
  • Fan Bingbing
  • Yan from Little Chinese Everywhere
[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Michelle Yeoh is Malaysian FYI.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh interesting, I guess I assumed from the name. There are many Malaysians of Chinese descent, but I thought looking them up would be cheating for my list lol

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Yeah, no worries. My gf is Chinese-Malay and her mum worships Michelle Yoeh. Only reason I know.

[–] BattleshipPokemon@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Cixin Liu, Eileen Giu, and ig Xi Jinping is all I can think of at short notice ngl

Edit: i even got the first name wrong, it's Liu Cixin smh

[–] christian@hexbear.net 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

We rack our brains. "There is Xi Jinping, the president," begins one of them.

I'm imagining this discussion happening very publicly in American media and someone argues that Gordon Chang is a Chinese national as the second suggestion.

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In 2016 Republican primary candidates could barely name any American women they weren't related to.

The Republican candidates were asked which woman they would like to see on the $10 bill, as the Treasury Department announced earlier this year.

Here's how each one responded:

Rand Paul: Susan B. Anthony

Mike Huckabee: My wife

Marco Rubio: Rosa Parks

Ted Cruz: "I wouldn’t change the $10 bill, I’d change the 20" with Rosa Parks

Ben Carson: My mother

Donald Trump: Daughter Ivanka and Rosa Parks

Jeb Bush: Margaret Thatcher — “probably illegal, but what the heck”

Scott Walker: Clara Barton

Carly Fiorina: "I wouldn’t change — I think honestly, it’s a gesture."

John Kasich: "I would pick Mother Teresa."

Chris Christie: "The Adams family has been shorted in the currency business."

[–] christian@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is probably a contraversial take but if you could keep them all in a zoo where they couldn't harm actual living people, republican politicians would probably be seen as endearing, like gibbons or panda bears.

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

“You call yourself an apex predator, but look like this? the-republican

Chris Christie: "The Adams family has been shorted in the currency business."

This is Lily Munster erasure

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[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 45 points 2 days ago (4 children)

brace belden, nick mullen, jackie chan

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Easy mistake to make but Nick Mullen is only culturally Chinese but ethnically gay

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[–] Petasetas@tardigram.com 31 points 2 days ago

And Ethan Hawke!

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[–] Homer_Simpson@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Quick! Name 3 people who aren't Jackie Chan

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

Hunter Biden

Queen Latifah

George RR Martin

You didn't specify ethnicity

[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Eilen Gu the skateboarder who made chuds seethe, Weili Zhang former UFC champ, and Shi Yuqi no1 ranked men badminton player, and I dont even watch sportsball

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Xi Jinping, Jackie Chan, Liu Cixin, and for a bonus Stephen Chow.

China really has to step up their cultural exports, just look at how well it's worked for Japan.

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[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)
  • Xi Jinping
  • Jackie Chan
  • Christopher Lambert as Raiden

admittedly, for living chinese people i would have to think for a bit to come up with three that weren't famous actors or sports people with big releases in the US.

Xi Jinping and Jack Ma is all that comes to mind in terms of public figures in the realm of political economy.

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)
  • Mao Tse Tung
  • Mao Zedong
  • Chairman Mao

Ez. Hes still real to me.

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[–] OptimusSubprime@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

Xi Jingping, Chen Weihua, and Donnie Yen.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It's kind of a hard question because Chinese names seem harder for English speakers to remember. I read science articles by Chinese authors all all the time, and the names don't stay with me nearly as easily as Western-style names do. That's why people like Jack Ma and Lisa Su anglicize their names, in all likelihood. Michelle Yeoh is also easy to remember (someone already mentioned Jackie Chan). Chow Yun-Fat came to me after a while, but I had to check his name and also that he was still alive. We unfortunately lost Chen-Ning Yang and Tsung-Dao Lee both quite recently, at well-advanced ages. Yao Ming is still around, retired from basketball, but owner of the Shanghai Sharks last time I looked.

Present-day Chinese political figures other than Xi: yes I'm also drawing a blank.

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[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 35 points 2 days ago

Part ignorance, part language barrier.

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago

We still live in 2000, when in reality we are much closer to 2050.

It's pretty close, though.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

I only know the gamertags of chinese starcraft players does that count

[–] Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

China doesn't promote itself like how other countries have, look at South Korea for example where KPop and drama and sports stars are common knowledge.

The question is an interesting one, but the reasons for it are perhaps more nuanced than at first thought.

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[–] miz@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Hu Mei, director
Chen Jianbin, actor and director
Tian Xiwei, actress

do I get extra credit for naming more?

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Chen Jianbin, actor and director

[–] miz@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

smoke 'em if you got 'em

Get all the credit you want, honestly, I didn't even think there was a point system to this.

[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Libs boutta be mad but Tsai Ing-wen (governor of the province of Taiwan), John Lee (representative of the district of Hong Kong), and the Dalai Lama (cultist in the territory of Tibet)

[–] Kefla@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

the Dalai Lama

nerd you were supposed to name them, try again sweaty

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[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago (6 children)

bro can't even name easy ones like Victor Gao

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

Yao ming is a gimme

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