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[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 78 points 8 months ago

Can i borrow a billion dollars please i promise I'll do economy stuff or whatever

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 62 points 8 months ago

taking the bank's money and turning it into stuff on a scale that makes them afraid to foreclose on you just sounds like winning at capitalism

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 54 points 8 months ago

like, sure, call in the loan, good luck repossessing all of my hidden buried treasure

[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 8 months ago

the loan was the friends they made along the way

[-] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

Taking out a $100 million loan only to reveal the actual use of that cash was training and arming Maoists in the mountains.

[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 62 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Kiyosaki also based the “poor dad” on his own dad. The book states the poor dad is an unsuccessful person because he decided to work in an actual job, paid his debt and never teach his child the grind.

In actuality his dad was a school teacher who at the end of life is well respected within his community and plays a role in Hawaiian politics.

If you're a thousand dollars in debt you have a problem, if you're a billion dollars in debt they have a problem.

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 46 points 8 months ago

How the fuck does that even happen? Who was loaning this man money? Why? Was no one looking at anything before giving him more money? No one asked how much debt he already had?

Why can’t I get a loan for $1,200,000,000? Hell no one would even give me a loan for $500k to buy a house. And my net worth is apparently much higher than this dude with it being slightly above $0 rather than negative $1.2 billion.

I feel like there should be a limit on individuals that you can have like, let’s say $1 million of debt total. Any more than that and everyone tells you “Nope, pay up.”

Also shouldn’t having more loans mean no one will loan you money? The person most deserving of a multi million dollar loan is certainly not the guy with millions of dollars in debt, it’s someone who’s never had a loan in their life. For some reason having more debt makes banks seemingly more willing to give you money and I cannot comprehend it.

[-] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 31 points 8 months ago
[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 28 points 8 months ago

Exactly though; Why on earth would any bank ever lend that kind of money, given this is the case? The banks are creating their own problem by giving “rich” people money seemingly without even bothering to check their finances

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago

Also shouldn’t having more loans mean no one will loan you money?

That rule only applies to us poors

[-] Ufot@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

Loans are given out for 1 reason, to receive interest payments.

If he's making the interest payments, then they're going to keep loaning him money.

Lenders often make stupid decisions and risky loans but at its core, a loan is determined by two(three) things.

  1. Does the lender believe the borrower has enough income to pay the minimum monthly payments?

  2. Does the lender believe the borrower has enough assets, which if liquidated could pay off the remaining debt?

  3. Is it worth the risk?

I'm no finance expert and there's a lot of specifics between different types of loans that have different reasons. Like a personal loan, mortgage, car loan, business loan. Way more than that idk.

There's also reasons banks will or will not loan money that are a little more vibe based, ie racism, classism.

But the lenders, either correctly or incorrectly, have determined he has the income streams and the assets(sounds like he owns lots of property), that risking 1.2 bil made financial sense. A lot of thst probably is tied to real estate.

Having said all that holy shit that's a lot of money. Assuming he's paying only the interest at 3% apr that's $36,000,000 a year. Fuck.

[-] Umechan@hexbear.net 45 points 8 months ago

This guy is so insufferable. From the videos I've seen of him summarizing his book, he thinks people who are struggling pass bad financial habits onto their children whenever they say they can't afford something, while a rich person would ask "how can I afford this?". He claims statements close off the mind while questions open it. Clearly the question he was asking himself was "why am I under any obligation to pay back my creditors?"

[-] booty@hexbear.net 26 points 8 months ago

Clearly the question he was asking himself was "why am I under any obligation to pay back my creditors?"

critical support

[-] Umechan@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago

Are you not aware that he's a landlord?

[-] booty@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

of course not, why would i burden my brain with the task of reshaping itself to retain facts about this guy

[-] Umechan@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

You should at least remember who is and isn't a landlord for when the revolution comes.

[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 8 months ago

not everyone needs to know who is a landlord.. all landlords will be known by at least some people and that will be sufficient for filing the head baskets

[-] EdelethIsBae@hexbear.net 43 points 8 months ago
[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago

The thing is, the situation is more like "if I go bust, the bank goes bust" for some reason...

[-] OperationOgre@hexbear.net 41 points 8 months ago

Source: made-it-the-fuck-up

c'mon, do you really believe everything a grifter says to business media publications?

[-] The_Walkening@hexbear.net 30 points 8 months ago

It's this - even if he really is a billion dollars in debt (doubtful), the body of the piece is just gold+bitcoin boosterism. It's an ad enabled by journalism essentially being stenography now.

[-] DickFuckarelli@hexbear.net 40 points 8 months ago

Open a for-profit comic book library. It's in your own fucking book, you idiot! You literally say it's that easy.

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 25 points 8 months ago

Using stolen comic books, no less. Lmao.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 33 points 8 months ago

Just go deeper into debt and use the debt to buy gold, got it.

[-] SovietReporter@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 8 months ago
[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 24 points 8 months ago

Bitcoin is the one ring that binds all the cranks together in the shadow

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 33 points 8 months ago

Debt dad, poor dad

[-] Blep@hexbear.net 33 points 8 months ago

Has he considered working for free? Surely thatll make him rich

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 31 points 8 months ago

How is that even possible?

Financial fraud and the fact that much of the lending business is vibes based.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

much of the lending business is vibes based.

Does that mean us poors won't pass the vibe checks? sadness

No one who has said "Vibe check" has ever passed a vibe check, sorry. I have said it too.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 31 points 8 months ago

Skill issue, I would simply be a rich dad.

[-] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 26 points 8 months ago

My sister read this book and I should have bullied her for it

[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 25 points 8 months ago

This is why people figured out that it's better to go in on the racist grift

it's easier to be racist than it is to become rich

[-] Sinistar@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago

Thesis: Rich Dad

Antithesis: Poor Dad

Synthesis: Indebted Dad

[-] leftofthat@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago

Kiyosaki: I have tons of debt I don't own anything no one could ever take my shit just because I owe them money.

Also Kiyosaki: I buy tons of gold. Please don't take that.

[-] charly4994@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago
[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago

wait wait, that was the goal??

[-] SovietReporter@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 8 months ago
[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago
[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

The podcast “If Books Could Kill” has a great takedown of him.

[-] SovietReporter@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Can you please share the link of the episode?

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Edit: can’t get the link to work, I don’t know how else to get it I just listen to it directly in my podcasting app

[-] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

I want to do this except buy more gold and bury it in the Alaskan wilderness, buy a small mining company, drill in Mt. Denali and become Smaug.

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