• mega-rich

• the 99%

The two parties of the war that we actually need.

The super rich make bank on civil wars. A good and proper war in any developed country would make hundreds of new billionaires and thousands of new millionaires: the hugest wealth transfer in history for that unlucky country.

Meanwhile most of the patriots, true believers, on all sides, who fight, would be dead or maimed or locked up. With most others stuck in poverty , illness and bad leadership whoever won.

Its good business for Musk and company to give a little push now and then

You did a good job of enumerating my thoughts. I think that they think that war will be enable them to act out their power fantasy and line up how you’re saying.

The only people wishing for civil war are too short-sighted to understand how horribly it would go for them. Ports, airports, water treatment plants, data centers, power stations etc etc etc predominantly located in urban areas. Good luck to the AR-15 loving whackjobs when they're instantly landlocked and deprived of foreign trade and means to communicate. They turn on the TV and the only broadcasts they'd see are "this can end now and it all starts with you"

I've found myself taking a paradoxically accelerationist stance about it, for this exact reason. At the moment, those on the right agitating for violence are a minority, and those that are actually prepared to act consist primarily of a few thousand militia LARPers and an even smaller number of actually-capable fighters. These groups are gradually accruing malcontents while the right wing's filter bubble casts their ideas as acceptable, but the sooner those chuds decide to go loud, the more lopsided and emphatic the beatdown will be -- provided that the armed forces are under the command of non-authoritarian President. Afterwards the public condemnation of insurrectionists will effectively choke off recruiting. Conflict feels almost inevitable at this point and giving the violent authoritarian fringe more time to plan and recruit only makes that conflict deadlier.

Reminds me of the saying, we do not all have the same 24 hours.

Just like Brexit, the Kremlin's disinformation on social media is behind it.

What's the first? Right wing nationalism? If so, it's been systematically propped and fostered by the oligarchs to sow division. It wouldn't be the problem it is without their continued support.

Or any kind of war.

It's not so bad... for the super-rich and powerful who can afford to buy protection or simply jet off to a peaceful place while cheering for whatever side they favor.

Remember this guy was born in a white-minority-ruled country. Comfy in his luxury gated community while paid tugs would break the heads of the blacks who would dare poke out of their "townships" (shanty towns) to ask for fair treatment.

The walls around his castle are too high and there are too many guards.

The fact that I've heard people unironically call for the Day of the Rope.

That's the ending of the book when the liberals lose power because of all the fucking nukes that the "Heroes" dropped and the "Good White Men" stand up and start lynching all the people who "Let it get so bad" in public. The book even says that many "Innocent" people were killed in the conclusion of it, but the heroes write it off as a "necessary sacrifice for the greater good"

It's full of insanity that feels more like parody, but this is their actual fantasy... A war-torn uninhabitable nuclear wasteland where the survivors just pick non-descript fruit all day.

This is a book where the good guy beats a white teenager to death withe a crowbar because she had the gall to get raped by a black man, and that's obviously her fault.... /s This guy is said to be a calm nerdy type who was liberal all his life too..

It's also said that white feminists legalized rape to promote equality between the sexes, yes I'm not kidding. The whole book is the most fucked up piece of shit I've ever seen in my life.

There's just.. so much wrong with Turner Diaries it makes my spine hurt. It really reads like a cautionary tale about fascism written as an extremely edgy parody of "What Right Wingers actually believe", but... no this book really means that...

Edit: Wait what did he say that had to do with the Turner Diaries.

I don't think he's actually eligible. He was born in South Africa.

I dunno, Elon musk would be the equivalent of old Kent Road in monopoly (or whatever the cheap first properties after go are in your localised monopoly). You could build some hotel sized conspiracies with him for very little investment.

Curiosity killed the rat

He should be the first living entity to be shot THROUGH Mars.