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I've come to two realizations recently:

One

The sudden tankie willingness to believe that Trump cares about a cease-fire in Gaza, and got tough with the Israelis and then they capitulated which Biden could have done at any time, sheds some interesting light on how the tankies think. They accuse anyone who disagrees with them of shifting their realities around, such that anything Biden does is good, anything the State Department says is always true, even if it contradicts itself or basic common sense or reality. I always thought that this was just a lazy reality-free arguing tactic, but in retrospect, I should have realized that it's a tell about their own thought process. Just like it's a warning sign if someone constantly suspects their partner of cheating, or is constantly on an absurdly hypervigilant lookout for scams and people trying to cheat them out of money, this is a key revelation about the way Hexbear itself looks at reality.

Trump is a capable diplomat, if believing that lets them trash Biden. Trump cares about Palestinians, if believing that lets them trash Biden. The cart is firmly in its place in front, and everything else including the horse can follow along depending on what the cart dictates.

Two

Hexbear's censorship, and wild hostility to anyone who comes to "their" place and tries not to toe the party line, really does do a pretty effective job of distorting the view of reality and consensus that their users are able to experience.

Take a look at these and compare:

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36382877

https://hexbear.net/post/4354590

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 80 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There is absolutely zero "Trump apologia" emanating from Hexbear you fucking idiots.

If you shoot him every single person here will celebrate. There is not a single person that would not celebrate. We would also celebrate if it was a dem too but that's besides the point.

Liberals are fucking idiots.

[–] TheGenderWitch@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago

Liberals are fucking idiots.

indeed

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago

But we think he's funny and we didn't celebrate when Nancy did that epic clap back

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 72 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Folks have to start putting this stuff in quote tags by putting a > in front of the paragraphs! I thought this was a real post by a real Hexbear user until I realized it was a link. yells-at-cloud

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 51 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I’ve interacted before with that mod and I don’t remember how it went down but I ended up adding the tag to their username “Potential Tankie”.

lmao

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 35 points 6 months ago

Modern libs are just McCarthyists who find-replaced "communist" with "tankie"

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago

I’ve interacted before with that mod and ~~I don’t remember how it went down but~~ they owned me so hard I ended up adding the tag to their username “Potential Tankie”.

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[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 50 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

liberals will reinvent the stab-in-the-back myth out of whole cloth before doing even the slightest bit of introspection about how running the most visibly-shambolic geezer they could find in the DC CVS, and then–once that gambit is bunk–promising to do your opponents agenda (that you previously highlighted as fascist) but more epicly, may not have been a winning strategy surprised-pika

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 49 points 6 months ago

As an admin these people should come here and share their concerns with me. layoff-stare

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 39 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Do we not openly weep about January 6th/call him a Cheeto enough

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago

It's that we don't lick the toes of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris every minute of every day.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 39 points 6 months ago

Lmao, what a dumpster-fire

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Trump is a capable diplomat, if believing that lets them trash Biden. Trump cares about Palestinians, if believing that lets them trash Biden. The cart is firmly in its place in front, and everything else including the horse can follow along depending on what the cart dictates.

If they can find a comment where a regular Hexbear user said this garbage without getting it removed and banned I'll stop reading Lenin.

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 6 months ago

That's 100% damage control.

The fact that Trump of all peoples could get a ceasefire this easily before even being sworn into office is an indisputable proof that the peoples who said that Biden couldn't do anything about the genocide or that he was doing everything he could were lying, and that Biden could have gotten a ceasefire and much more out of Israel all this time, and pretty easily and quickly too.

This is a terrible look for the Democrats and for all the Blue MAGA who were vouching for them.

So now they're trying to gazlight everyone int thinking that anyone who think this temporary ceasefire is a good thing is secretly a Trump supporter to distract everyone from the fact that Biden had one entire year to simply call bibi and pressure him into making some concessions but never even considered doing it because he was sure that folks would continue to vote blue anyway.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago

Christ I thought this was another modpost for a second.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

socsa@piefed.social

Nah, there are very obviously a whole bunch of Russian trolls in all of these spaces. They legit just parrot Russian narratives about the war and US politics. It’s extremely transparent.

This is why we need "IP indicators" in our display names folks!

This is giving me whiplash.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

it's always russian trollfarms. they were responsible for trumps first term, COVID, trump's second term, and anything bad biden did. I am impressed with russias ability to be a backwards state losing to Ukraine, while also being incredibly modern and capable of undertaking global cyber attacks whenever something liberals don't like happens.

At this stage, the Internet should be avoided entirely. No way to prove the whole network isn't a russian trollfarm.

[–] TheGenderWitch@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

they're completely delusional people who think disagreement means that its foreign interference

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[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 35 points 6 months ago

With the old chapotraphouse subreddit, the liberals at least waited until it was banned and nobody was around to defend it, and nobody could check the posts for themselves, before they started going so hard on the lies and bullshit campaign.

[–] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago

Oh ffs, the stethoscope nonsense reappears again in the comments!

[–] GenXen@hexbear.net 33 points 6 months ago

Trump cares about a cease-fire in Gaza

Trump is a capable diplomat

Those aren't even arguments that you find on liberal reddit-logo , let alone hexbear . Such a straw man.

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 33 points 6 months ago

Tankies really don't want to believe that biden/Harris were working tirelessly, 18 hr days to get a ceasefire done, just for trump to come in and take the credit akin to my grandmother stealing credit for opening the jam jar that I loosened

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Gotta love that one person claiming that all left-wing extremists are authoritarians and then immediately shitting on anarchists when corrected by one.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 35 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Authoritarian is a meaningless word and I am convinced it was invented by the CIA

[–] miz@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

authoritarian is whenever the government does something that might negatively affect my class, pragmatic necessity is when the government does something that might negatively affect the people I employ

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[–] TheGenderWitch@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago

'anti authoritarians' just becoming liberals, very common

[–] Darth_Reagan@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago

I didn't see anyone saying Trump cares about Palestinians. Everyone has either said its realpolitik either to get it off his plate, or set the stage for a further escalation at some unforeseen date, or a big fuck you to Joe Biden and Bibi because Trump likes to big dog.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

mfw Goat gets accused of being a tankie:

Saying shit no one has ever heard of like “horseshoe theory” and trying to make the regular people who never heard of it out to be stupid or abnormal is exactly what outs you as a Russian bot.

Check this guy’s post history. It’s pretty clear which team he plays for.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago

Lmao, live by the russianjacketing, die by the russianjacketing

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The only person less educated than someone talking about horseshoe theory has to be the person who thinks it's some esoteric piece of High Theory lol

[–] TheGenderWitch@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

same with pop history, they think they're very good at history for watching like a few youtube videos

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

Same energy as everyone pointing to the Trolley Problem as if it has a single objective answer that is universally applicable and overrules all other considerations.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Trump cares about a cease-fire in Gaza

the same guy who has multiple times called for a final solution to the gaza problem? yeah nobody has ever believed he cares about palestinian people, he just wants to look like mr deals who struck the big ceasefire deal that biden couldn't

[Trump] got tough with the Israelis and then they capitulated which Biden could have done at any time

the thing is, it's not that biden couldn't do this ceasefire, israel is a beached aircraft carrier that exists at our sole discretion, it's that he never wanted a ceasefire or he could have done this just as easily

[–] neo@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago

Trump is human detritus. Everything about him is absolutely repulsive (which is comical because he's also The Most American President I can think of). His foreign policy has space for a Greater Israel, he obviously doesn't care about Palestinians.

And yet Joe Biden facilitated the genocide, and Trump ushered in a ceasefire. That's just a fact. That doesn't mean Trump is a good person. Biden has earned his place in hell and Trump is clearly doing his best to make Earth hell, so make of that what you will.

[–] NewAcctWhoDis@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They're gonna need to be more specific with the "look at these and compare" bit. Do they not understand that you only see comments from federated instances?

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's because we censored lemmy.world by being preemptively defederated from them

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

Pre-emptively ... as a last resort. dont-laugh

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 months ago

Trump is a capable diplomat, if believing that lets them trash Biden. Trump cares about Palestinians, if believing that lets them trash Biden.

If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't remove from the realm of possibility that I've been posting on a fake website as the only person who isn't in Russia or being paid.

Does my not realizing this place is a troll farm make me ineligible to collect a cheque now?

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

OMG they got their own three letter acronyms to judge a post with NTA, YTA, ESH, NMI, TMI

[–] TheGenderWitch@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

although i do think there should be a discussion about trying too much to criticize democrats it comes off as defending republicans (not because we like republicans, we're usually just trying to expose the democrats for co-opting the left and we want to build an independent left movement). No trump apologia i'd say, but uneven criticism. I see this as most leftists being more annoyed by liberals since liberals are more present in their movements and whatnot, while conservatives are dismissed outright because how the fuck do you talk to those people.

People will defend downright reactionary beliefs, whether on purpose or on accident, just because the person with said beliefs are critiquing liberalism or capitalism. Although the ban against 'luigi lionization' had excesses, it was based on the fact that some users would just defend his transphobia instead of being normal and hating on it while supporting killing CEOs. People will hate things for having pronouns and some users just wont realize that, accidentally hurting their already vulnerable minority comrades. Do some research on the person critiquing capitalists or capitalism, because it might just because they hate 'wokeness'.

Theres also the tendency to over embrace the development of 'multipolar' capitalism as what will save the world, while not establishing that multipolar capitalism is merely just an opportunity for us to exploit as capitalism temporarily weakens and is decentralized toward competing finance capital centers. That can definitely be seen as a 'right' tendency. Some also over embrace market socialism to the point where it literally is just social democracy. I blame allowing socialism to be redefined as simply 'prosperity'. We should be striving for capitalism's destruction, not becoming the next social democrats.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

idgi, the Hexbear thread is shorter because not all the users posting in that thread are federated with us, right? Or am I missing something?

[–] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

LemmySlopSkinner, tankies have as much real world power as Havana syndrome. We might come off as “pro-trump” because we like to laugh at the foolish shit he does to weaken US hegemony

Post this when Hexbear is name dropped by a congressperson (this place would be long gone before it ever reached that point) or blows up on twitter or whatever

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