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They changed the headline on this article. It originally read, "Polievre launches campaign with a pitch to heal, 'a divided country'" which made me laugh because he's spent so much time whipping up the white grievance that carried Trump to power in the US and trying desperately to ride the same wave of populist bullshit with the same message as Trump. When he's railing about the, "woke" and "political correctness" that suggests that we can expect an all out assault of LGBTQ+ rights, brown people, books, and anything else they don't like.

https://youtu.be/R59JmC0u63I

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

"Firm" is completely sufficient. There is no need to be "respectful" to someone who don't respect others in the first place.

[–] DarkWinterNights@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The irony that the guy still has Canada First signs up, a direct nod to MAGA, as has been all of his playbook since the Free Dumb Convoy.

[–] rozcakj@lemmy.ca 7 points 21 hours ago

Not only a direct nod to MAGA, but a slogan used in printed materials by the "Proud Boys" (another Canadian export that no one wanted)

[–] CanadaPlus 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Like every pro-Trump Canadian votes heavily conservative, which adds up, so they have to balance not getting primaried against being remotely viable in the actual election.

It will be interesting to see where this goes if they lose. Best case scenario, a new more anti-American conservatism arises. Worst case scenario they double down without collapsing and then eventually win a government by sheer force of FPTP.

[–] Bublboi@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It hard for him to be hard on Trump when he’s got a hard on for Trump.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Oh he'll be hard on Trump all right. Beyond having an eminently punchable face, I have it from a very reliable source that ~pp~ is an absolutely vicious power bottom. He's gonna say so many mean things to Trump!

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

Respectful? He rapes women and wants to rape our country.

He's an enemy. No respect should be given.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 67 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Thank you for pointing this out in big bold letters. Our citizens need to know when an article they read is being skewed towards the country that owns the media.

Keep your the good work!! Get this out to everyone when they post soft on US articles.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their opinion section is fetid shithole of right wing propaganda. Their news room accurately reported on what Poilievre said. We need to pay attention to the right wing media is saying because that's the teat that the aggrieved white are suckling at.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While also notifying readers of the caveats of the source. ☺️

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Regular font size would have been fine.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

maybe I should be "respectful and firm"?

~/s~

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Really need to get billboards up and out in Alberta to let the bulk of their citizens know the media they’re reading with a Pro US agenda are American owned and do not have the interests of Canadians at heart.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They don't care. They voted in that traitorous curr who is currently doing her best to sell out Canada. This is what they want.

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doesn’t matter. As a united Canadiana, we need to try and get it through their head that we are 1 country united.

I think a lot of voters would reconsider if they actually understood their freedom was as stake from being bombarded by American based media conglomerates

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who's going to tell them? Corporate media?

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have to think more grassroots my friend. When they post articles related to pro U.S. articles, point them to Infograph’s that show the rags they’re reading are US owned.

[–] DarkWinterNights@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well said. As an Albertan who has spent a considerable amount of energy explaining what's happened here politically (both in and out of the province), you're right we're not a monolith.

Alberta's most recent election reflects this - many rural regions had 1:2 and 2:3 vote turnouts the UCP won in their ridings that have been traditionally 1:5 or 1:6 (the least blue they've been in decades). Municipalities have been overwhelming anything BUT blue. Fewer than ~130 votes spread out across a handful of ridings ultimately could have changed the outcome (which is why pollsters had such a hard time predicting the outcome).

When talking with people, most of them aren't even aware what the real issues are (so much as rhetoric on sovereignty, trans people, wokeness, and carbon tax, etc.); many folks aren't even aware that the Progressive Conservatives aren't a thing anymore, provincially in Alberta or Federally. I know many who were largely uninformed right up to the election who were on the fence, and in the end differed to what trusted parties (relatives, friends, etc.) told them. Some still tell me their biggest grievance with Trudeau was his dad literally flipping the bird at Albertans in 1982, or rather, the media frenzy that followed.

These are gettable voters. Consider that a lot of people made their final choice in the polls because of the federal conservative party's last minute endorsement of Danielle Smith, having tried to keep their distance from her crazy as much as possible (and because long-term PCs (and not CPs) were aggressively speaking out against her); would it have changed anything? Probably actually, given how narrow the margins were, and unless you believe the federal conservative endorsement drove more voters away from the UCP than towards, it very likely changed the outcome.

I agree a real strategy needs to be looked at, and telling them it's their fault because more people voted one way or another and implying they don't care only drives a wedge - it doesn't foster any real inroads.

As a start, I'd suggest people spread the word on this tool: https://smartvoting.ca/federaldashboard . Look at places like Calgary (3 regions currently polling Liberal (with others close), something unheard of in ages, and the more blue of the two major municipalities). These are battlegrounds, and the disinformation machine will work hard to steer those votes back.

PP no doubt begging DS to keep her mouth shut.

E: Dropping This here for anyone interested in learning most about Chatham/PostMedia and their American influence on our media.

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Amazingly well said. We need more people to put in the effort such as yourself in Alberta. Keep up the good work!!

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

I don't want respectful and firm, I want a PM to shove a pineapple up the asses of those threatening our sovereignty

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

I'm not interested at being respectful towards Trump.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I guess they think "respectful and firm" is their best shot at taking a stand without alienating their base.

I don't think it's going to play.

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

I’ve never seen Pierre dish out respect.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

According to moral foundations theory, there are six pillars through which humans perceive morality

  1. Caring
  2. Fairness
  3. Liberty
  4. Authority
  5. Loyalty
  6. Sancity

The first three are known as individualizing foundations and the last three are known as binding foundations.

Liberals tend to prioritize the first three. Conservatives tend to prioritize all equally which can lead to some contradicting world views. But the last three are less important to liberals so are more apparent among conservatives.

Conservatives in general have higher threat sensitivity. They are very in-group focussed. They believe that authority is morally just for maintaining order within a group, loyalty can often matter more than caring or fairness and that the sanctity of the group and its traditions are paramount.

This is where Poilievre needs to be very careful. Canadian conservatives perceive America as a legitimate outgroup threat and so their love language right now would be authority, loyalty and maintaining the sanctity of Canadian traditions.

Essentially, they would swoon over the Canadian version of Trump but that doesn't exist so what are our options? Right now, Carney has the advantage of being prime minister and taking a relatively strong stance against Trump.

Trudeau and Ford rushed over to the US to beg for exceptions while Carney has said he isn't going there to talk until they at least acknowledge our sovereignty. He's speaking a conservative love language by being authoritative.

Unless Poilievre can flip that script, he's going to have to get used to going from front runner to underdog at the flip of a switch. Starting with being "respectful but firm" is a weak response which will hurt his perception among conservatives.

[–] aushtan@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago

Respectful and firm for trump yet every ad i get is a blatant attack on Carney. Buddy can go find a cliff to do a flip off of

[–] Pax@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago

Respectful and firm as he rolls over and licks trump’s boots.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You'd think the conservative party of all parties would take a hard line stance against foreign aggression. And yet here we are.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Conservative parties around the world have become fascist dictator supporting boot lickers.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

OMG, "respectful and firm," that's an election-losing rhetoric in the current political climate.

"respectful and firm" vs "will meet after Trump says Canada is a sovereign country"

I'm gonna make a bet today - I think PP will lose the election and by more than a few percentage points.

[–] bowreality@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

Shh don’t tell him. Let them lose

[–] RapidCatLauncher@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"I am a tough guy. I will be very firm."

Can't even sound tough if he tries. Fucking loser that he is.

[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What kind of pansy-ass approach is this?! We are so screwed if the conservatives win.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Meanwhile, ~~Elizabeth~~ Danielle Smith, Premiere of Alberta, said this about Poilievre:

“So I would think that there’d be, there’s probably still always going to be areas that are skirmishes or disputes about particular industries when it comes to the border, but I would say, on balance, the perspective that Pierre would bring would be very much in sync with, I think…the new direction in America,” she added. “And I think we’d have a really great relationship for the period of time they’re both in.”

Emphasis mine.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She's apparently advocates for Trump to keep tarrifs on during the election because she thinks it will hurt the Liberals.

She's a fucking traitor.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Agreed, and she seems to believe Poilievre is too.

[–] bowreality@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Thanks. I have no idea where I got Elizabeth from.

[–] LimpRimble@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is he threatening to start wearing his glasses again?

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 4 points 22 hours ago

The creator of "boots not suits", good luck finding him not wearing a suit up until he declared that campaign, then he literally just took the suit jacket off but was awkwardly wearing the rest of the suit.

He is such a snake.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump is making a joke of Canadian sovereignty on global stage similar to how Putin treated Ukraine...

This clown's response is to tuck his dick harder?!

If Canadians elected this clown, y'all deserve to be on the same level Puerto Rico... Why would we even give you any voting power?

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

He appeals to the same aggrieved white people that Trump appeals to with the same message about smart people, progressives, and the woke making them feel bad and telling them that they aren't better than women, the gays, trans, drag queens, and brown people.

https://youtu.be/R59JmC0u63I