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[–] Des@hexbear.net 59 points 1 day ago (4 children)

hold on i thought old fashion tape drives were in fact still very reliable and have insanely high capacity for data you don't need to access much or quickly?

[–] fox@hexbear.net 26 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Magnetic tape drives have the lowest per-terabyte cost of any digital storage medium and will typically function for 15-30 years

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 20 hours ago

Well yeah but why would you store something in a facility you control on hardware you own when you could host it in the cloud?

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago

Absolutely, they have proven long-term reliability, and great data density.

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 day ago

You would be correct

[–] Future_Honkey@hexbear.net 17 points 20 hours ago

Chat is this real? Even my dumbass knows you don't get rid of the physical backups

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 82 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow! A million dollars?! Now we'll be able to fire another...half of a Tomahawk missile mission-accomplished

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 11 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

porky-happy What a coincidence, the price of a missile just went up by that exact amount

[–] kittin@hexbear.net 106 points 1 day ago

Just saved $800 by converting 4 rubber tires (137 yr old technology) to driving on my rims

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tapes are not only better for long term storage but it's just way cooler too

[–] copandballtorture@hexbear.net 25 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

But you gotta pay a maintenance technician to store them, which is completely unreasonable to the kids that pirated all their software and are now running the government

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 13 points 19 hours ago

I-was-saying I'm a kid who pirates all my software and I want archival tape...

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 14 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, hate to have highly skilled professionals do important work.

[–] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 106 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Magnetic tapes are modern ‘permanent’ digital storage - they’re often used for long term archiving and backups. After decades of development and refinement it’s extremely reliable and relatively inexpensive. So I very much doubt that there will actually be long term savings. But we all know that’s not really the point of Doge so I guess who cares.

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I was gonna say this, I've set up tape archiving system for companies in the past, they're very cheap, stable, and easy to maintain. They absolutely are the right, modern choice for a lot of long-term data archival use cases.

I'm guessing 'permanent modern digital record' means they uploaded it all into the cloud, where they will have to change it regularly due to updates, frequently lose access to it all after a datacentre outage, and soon get price gouged so they're paying far, far more.

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 71 points 1 day ago (1 children)

good news guys, we stored all the government data on aws

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can't wait to see that s3 bucket in the next few months

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago

It's going to be either billions or zero dollars

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 12 points 20 hours ago

Converted all our files to Adobe suite format for accessibility and ease of use

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Huh, weird I smell the library of Alexandria burning again

[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

yea i imagine all of this information has been or will be shortly lost

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 21 points 23 hours ago

Maybe this is just a way for them to hide shit by "accedentally" losing it

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 9 points 20 hours ago

Ignorance when it comes to the internet is just miles and leagues worse than you can possibly imagine. I’m convinced that musk hasn’t thought about data retention for 20 years if not longer. “Permanent modern digital records?” There’s no fucking way

With a dash of Sunday scaries anxiety, below I channel my inner UlyssesT (may he rest in peace)

spoiler

Of course I would miss my precious hexagonal bear, but it would be a net good if a foreign actor dismantled the west’s flimsy network architecture in an unprecedented cyber attack and forced people outside once again. We’re all miserable whether we admit it or not (this is quite the take and I can defend it if someone feels strongly against it but I think people might know what I’m talking about) and have no company outside of emulating it in the most constrained and toxic digital pods which are a copy and paste of the environment depicted in the Matrix. If that wasn’t bad enough, we’re removing all likelihood of anything hinting at Socratic dialogue by firmly keeping people placated by their echo chambers, filled to the brim with numerous algorithmic systems tokenizing and manipulating our brain chemistry on the fly. We’re then wrapping all of this up in stolen data to train systems which require the same resources we need to survive.

This is a reality that would leave Vonnegut wishing he never would have existed

Throwing 200 years of archived data into s3 to ~~train LLMs~~ own the libs

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 89 points 1 day ago

I love how he has 0 understanding of things even tech laymen know.

[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 78 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The team of tape archivists at my office will be glad to hear that they can be replaced by a USB HDD.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 47 points 1 day ago

You joke but there's a non insignificant chance some Management sees this and orders the same thing to be done

[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

what

why would that make you save money

what

[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Keeping tape records in a warehouse is really cheap! That is the entire point of them. Also the fact that they are very reliable.

[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yea im confused where they got the number from, but they probably just pulled it out of their ass

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 15 points 23 hours ago

You can store 50PB of tape data in a warehouse and service all the warehouse, labor, and equipment for $1M/year. Meanwhile you can store 5TB of data in an S3 bucket for a year for the same price.

[–] buh@hexbear.net 17 points 23 hours ago

they zipped it up and threw it on big balls' minecraft server

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 13 points 22 hours ago

We migrated the tape backups to a Vercel app!

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Did they put it on the blockchain

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 46 points 1 day ago

they uploaded it to google drive and then forgot the password

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[–] heatenconsumerist@hexbear.net 17 points 23 hours ago

Boys, I think I just accidentally deleted the entire "sell to government" google doc

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

70 years old? It must be inefficient. very-smart

Government should just save $1B per year by converting 26 characters (1200 year old alphabet) to prmnnt mdrn txt spk.

[–] yet_another_commie@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Abolish Gregorian calendar (2025 year old calendar) to embrace Musk Calendar

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 8 points 21 hours ago

*About 400 year-old calendar

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[–] Sibshops@lemm.ee 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They've been switching from tapes to optical storage long before Elon. The money figure is made up, however.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)

optical? is that supposed to be more durable? last i knew cds and dvds had a pretty miserable shelf-life

[–] TrustedFeline@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

last i knew cds and dvds had a pretty miserable shelf-life

They last pretty long when not exposed to your car floor or living room shelves

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 1 points 33 minutes ago

unless you're stamping them, the chemical dyes used in dvd/cd-r/rw degrades fairly quickly iirc

[–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago

I know Microsoft has been working on glass storage under their project silica moniker that they claim has stability measurable in the centuries and really high capacities but I don't know if it's deployed anywhere yet.

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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

he's probably stored it on NVME drives because he uses it in his gaming PC (that he definitely didnt get someone else to build)

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago

I was gonna say something cute like how much are they spending to upgrade to save the money on maintenance but then I realized I don't actually care.

[–] dannoffs@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

DOGE is pleased to announce that we have saved the tax payers 5 million dollars spent 20 years ago by converting the written constitution (6000 year old technology for information storage) to permanent modern TikToks.

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