"China bad. They built a train station."
lol
"China bad. They built a train station."
lol
You build a high speed rail endpoint somewhere, and development will happen there. That's what I always point out.
That's why dense populations are always on rivers, because you can transport things along them easily. Trains are the same more or less.
the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry
don't ever change
Lol their dad and my dad should hang out. My dad loves both Mao and Bill Clinton, in equal measure. He is literally a CPC party member (I assume expired but he still has his membership card) and is China's biggest defender in the US, but he is also really proud of being an American. Like his dream is to have the two countries mutually agree to combine into one country.
As you can imagine the recent ratcheting up of tensions has really dampened his mood.
Also, one of his funnier crank opinions is that Portugal should have kept Macao becuase they bought it fair and square in the 16th century, but China should have invaded Hong Kong to show the British who's boss.
our dads should all hang out because my dad is also kinda similar, but since we're not american, he hates america with a passion
hes like a kinda right wing dengist with very reactionary views on many things but still supports China because he has to
he hero worships Deng and thinks that he was the one that saved China from madness with his market reforms
It's so interesting the wide array of people that exist who fully accept China's success but don't understand the politics or economics at all
My dad loves every secretary general because China has been a constant rocketship for all of them and is neutral on the West because it was genuinely infinitely better when he immigrated but knows they've completely stalled since the 90s compared to China
My mom who's family's business and property got taken by Map loves Deng because she thinks he was a capitalist and hates Xi and current China for hurting capitalists again
😍he hates the British that much huh?
The Britain tarnished the honor of China and must be destroyed, meanwhile my parents met at very lovely Portuguese couple on their European vacation and now the Portuguese are honorary Chinese.
Theres people in there saying that China botched "its transition to capitalism" worse than Russia lol
Yea China's economy is fked which is why they're the biggest economy rn
They literally cannot say a single good thing about china to the extent they would rather deny reality lmao
They believe inframaterialism is real but also that's bad because it means the hiveminded asians can succeed despite not following the rules.
If we post enough china will collapse in 20 hours videos maybe it manifest itself into reality
You'll never outpost the Chinese, tho
China is always and forever the image from the 1980s where polluted slums are advertised as the legacy of Communism.
A lot of posts on there are from English teachers in china giving advice to each other on how to take advantage of their students to sleep with them
I'm not going to praise Chinese bullet trains, for example. They're nice but l've been to some really empty train stations in Xinjiang and Gansu that probably shouldn't have been built.
The government hates its minorities so much they built high quality transportation for them to use whenever they feel like it, but they should be more efficient and abolish all of it because I don’t see any pictures of Uyghurs riding it
Took too long to try to find that comment about "empty train stations" because I was going to respond with either "transit oriented development, in which likely it will be built up in a few years' time" or what I would more likely say "theyre all riding this one guys mum"
the CCP has been good at pushing renewables, even though maybe they're motivated by money instead of environmental reasons.
Where's the evil?
To a liberal, it is far more important to be "morally virtuous" and "pure" than it is to actually improve the world. So if China is deemed to have "impure" reasons for renewables, then it doesn't count, and if the US "tries" to implement renewables, but fails, that's ok, because they tried really hard.
Some of the most fucked up liberal logic is when some billionaire is nakedly greedy it is seen as "pure" because "gotta please the shareholders" but if a protestor wears brand-name shoes that's seen as a moral failing for the protestor's message.
Capitalist ideology in general, Žižek maintains, consists precisely in the overvaluing of belief – in the sense of inner subjective attitude – at the expense of the beliefs we exhibit and externalize in our behavior. So long as we believe (in our hearts) that capitalism is bad, we are free to continue to participate in capitalist exchange.
Capitalist Realism chapter 2
That is the weirdest handwave of chinas train system lol
How does one even explain that to themselves
Because building infrastructure for the poor, the underserved, the historically downtrodden, and predominantly racial minorities to help raise their economic situation? That sounds like communism to me, and we all know communism is bad because it doesn't lead to ever-increasing profits.
empty train stations
Holy shit are people so fucking dumb now that they can't understand planning ahead?
Building things before they're needed is good actually. I am so tired of waiting for infrastructure to be built years after it's needed.
I will never understand people who don't get efficientcy. We can plan ahead, we have the data to know what an area is going to be like, not planning ahead for that is just stupid and negligent.
I always found it funny that they crap on China for empty developments not yet populated because westoids are only familiar with the same crumbling congested infrastructure with absolutely nothing new ever built because that means the property prices can't be inflated exponentially.
Things tend to be empty when they're first developed or in the process of being completed. Not that a westoid would know because they haven't seen anything new in their lifetimes.
The sheer amount of white dudes who live in/have visited China on "business trips" outweighs the actual native Chinese people by like, 2:1 at least. And those people are like the guy above, westerners who have Chinese ancestry, and who visited China maybe twice to see their extended family.
Naturally this means they are all 110% perfect China experts and we should trust everything they say about the country.
is there ANYTHING that the CCP or China in general can be credited with?
Look at the tag on your shirt or any of your appliances, they sign that shit
Is there anything at all that China in general can be credited with?
Well, before they became all woke the first emperor literally invented an immortality potion. The woke, soy CCP will not let me drink it with their snowflake "health and safety guidelines", but I give credit where it is due. Plus, I can find more than enough of it in old thermometers to achieve immortality anyway. After Qin Shi Huang they became woke and never did anything worth taking notice of ever again.
It’s days like these that I curse the Chinese for inventing gunpowder
the train argument really gets on my nerves yes some train lines are unprofitable but they are also vital transport infrastructure. Roads aren't expected to turn a profit
if people can get to job sites because of a trainline then that is economic utility produced by the train not recorded in the price of the ticket.
So is there ANYTHING that the CCP or China in general can be credited with?
To quote some guy on lemm.ee:
I don't even see any politics on my instance! listen dude, i actually support china because i play genshin impact
That guy was great lmao
Ah yes, the train station arguement - if I don't actively see someone using it, it must not have a use.
Ok but seriously, is there anything that the CPC is bad at?
Edit: Thanks for the responses guys, you've all made really good points!
Their neutrality makes them popular with both developing countries who want to get support from China and the US, but it also means they don’t push for changes in corrupt and tyrannical governments, so you get shit friendliness with countries like Israel and Saudi Arabia. But compare that to the US, where they’ll nominally force you to “improve” your government and human rights, pillage your country, coup it when someone stands up to them, and STILL be friendly with Israel and Saudi Arabia.
foreign policy is a weaker area, I would say. I think it's certainly based more on a long-term view of geopolitics, as best as I can tell the Party seems to be essentially thinking "The logic of Marxism is ironclad enough that we can be sure that even if we have to wait 70 years, development of these countries like that which we have been doing with the Belt and Road will result in a transition from capitalism to socialism; we need not rock the boat like the USSR did, we can simply wait, give some nudges, and everything will fall into place"
the unfortunate part of this obviously is that countries and socialist parties/movements that could really use a shitload of arms (that China could easily produce and supply with its massive industry) probably won't get them, or if they do then it'll be in relatively small quantities so as to not trigger suspicion.
their foreign policy is much better than America's obviously but they'd have to dig past the bedrock of hell itself to even approach that bar
also their massive amounts of coal plants. don't get me wrong, they're also the biggest renewable producer by far and there are legitimate reasons why they need a ton of power generation even if it's the shittiest form, I know the arguments, but it still fucking sucks that they're making as many as they are
Don’t look at the factions China supported during the Sino Soviet Split
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