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[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 101 points 3 days ago

Gay marriage is also illegal despite all the rainbowwashing propaganda

[-] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 61 points 3 days ago

There's that great video that's gone around a couple times exploring the history of how Israel uses sex to sell itself. Seems they use "gay tolerance" and pride imagery as a way to advertise it as a place of sexual freedom in a fetishistic way, not in an actual liberatory kind of way.

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 41 points 3 days ago

Haven't seen that video but sounds like it fits with those IOF thirst traps

[-] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

Yeah effectively, the video says it's part of the same strategy. No clue where I'd even begin to look for it. I think it got posted on here at one point.

[-] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

I would imagine with ~~unavoidable global surveillance~~ big data, this becomes super easy to make sure each person sees whichever message would encourage a positive view of Israel.

[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago

Tel Aviv is the only even remotely gay friendly part of Israel. It's comparable to saying Texas is an LGBTQ haven because Austin exists. And even that doesn't do it justice, if anything, I'm being too nice to Israel by comparing them to Texas on LGBTQ rights.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 34 points 3 days ago

I thought the story there was that marriage is left to the temples and the temples are so universally bigoted that you aren't going to be able to get gay-married, but it's not actually illegal.

Death to Israel, if it needs clarification.

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 37 points 3 days ago

That's just a gay marriage ban with extra steps.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 66 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They still can't fucking read even when when it's laid out in front of them! That tweet Ms Wu is quoting specifically says that the only marriage recognised in Israel is a religious marriage. Do they think a bunch of religious zealots from the apartheid regime of Israel are going to take part in an LGBT marriage? Just think about it for 5 seconds!

Honestly we need a basic literacy campaign for these idiots. They need to learn to read, from the ground up again. These internet influencer buffoons can't even read at a fourth grade level.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago

Some kind of adult education center, if you will. An outdoor group situation where these people can be re-taught the basics and eventually Marxism. We'll probably need to start a mass cultural change to get these places set up.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

At this point I'd settle for getting these internet influencers to pass a high school English literacy exam, nevermind Marxism.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

Dream a little bigger, cornrad. They're staying in the re-education camp until they can recite all three volumes of Kapital verbatim. Probably make them memorize State and Revolution and the red book, too.

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[-] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

We need that Westworld “it doesn’t look like anything to me” emoji.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

the emoji would just get canceled 4/5 of the way through and then they'll remove a bunch of other emojis for a tax loophole

[-] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 54 points 3 days ago

Lol everyone on Twitter is claiming "THIS ISN'T TRUE!!! YOU JUST HAVE TO... fly to Cyprus to get married."

So, it is banned in the country, but there is a loophole that requires you to buy a plane ticket to another country. So in other words... it's banned in the country.

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago
[-] Pentacat@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

Aren’t they exterminating their poor people?

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

They've got enough poor Israelis too.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago

it's an international flight, Michael, how much could it cost? ten dollars? how-much-could-it-cost

[-] piccolo@hexbear.net 67 points 3 days ago

Didn't Brianna Wu have a tweet where she said she had just learned what pogroms were?

[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 65 points 3 days ago

So, i've tried looking up what the situation is actually like for trans people in Israel because i was aware that Israel does not allow same sex marriages, which made me wonder if it would be possible for Briana to at least get legally recognized as a woman so she could marry her husband (if they both convert, ofc - there simply is no secular marriage in Israel. That's why they do not allow interfaith or gay marriage). And oh boy, is it hard to find something about trans rights in Israel that goes into more depth than "legal recognition, but it's complicated". Turns out it is actually incredibly shitty:

https://upr-info.org/sites/default/files/documents/2018-01/js6_upr29_isr_e_main.pdf

To summarize the trans related part of that report:

Up until 2016, bottom surgery was a requirement for legal recognition. BTW, accessing bottom surgery through public health care is at the same time made almost impossible "due to several regulatory failures in this domain". If you do not get bottom surgery, you have to get judged by a "comittee" and get a ton of transmedicalist bullshit hurled at you. The comittee also acts completely intransparent, does not answer to anybody, tells nobody what their guidelines for determining if an applicant should be recognized as their gender are, has the right to question anybody you know, and is also in charge of determining if you are allowed to receive gender affirming care. Which it makes conditional on getting bottom surgery. Which you then can't get even if you want to. Even seeing the committee takes about 3-5 years on average.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago

Doesn't TERF Island allow trans people to get married? And even recognizes their gender legally? I'm flabbergasted. Bamboozled, even. Utterly confused. Completely surprised the fascist death cult ethno state has worse rights for LGBTQ+ people than some of the most bigoted countries on the planet.

[-] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The TERF island thing is mainly because there is a small but very vocal bipartisan TERF media class that has been allowed to dominate the narrative. Whenever they poll people in the UK they are generally less transphobic than say the USA. And as far as treatments go the UK actually has or had "good" gender care in the sense it has free publicly funded gender clinics something that most countries simply do not have, but because they have been subjected to this wave of transphobia, as well as crippling austerity in general, they have absurdly long waiting lines, while being staffed with TERFS and trans-medicalists at various levels.

Compared to say Australia, where transphobia is still thankfully mostly a crank fringe thing (still definitely present), but in most states outside of some public hospitals having paediatric gender clinics for children, all adult transgender care is done by private clinics with doctors who has a special interest in gender care and you basically have to get private insurance for gender affirming surgery or travel. So you get better care but there can be a significant financial barrier.

[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago

And even recognizes their gender legally?

Self-ID or whatever it's called has been pushed for on that God forsaken rock but unsurprisingly the TERF lobby has blocked it afaik

[-] TheDeed@hexbear.net 65 points 3 days ago

Furthermore if you're not the right kind of Jew in Israel (Orthodox) you can't get married. Tons of people fly to Cyprus and then get married

[-] HarryLime@hexbear.net 45 points 3 days ago

Furthermore if you're not the right kind of Jew in Israel (Orthodox) you can't get married.

Wait what?

[-] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago

I thought the Orthodox Jews were anti-zionist. A ton of them in the US and elsewhere speak out against Israel.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 42 points 3 days ago

There are different sects of orthodoxy

Not to mention it's not like they have a Pope telling them what to think anyway

Not that it would make them think different anyway, just like with the Pope

[-] TheDeed@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

One could argue that some of the dynastic Chasidic sects do kinda have someone telling them what to think in the form of their Rebbes.

[-] TheDeed@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not all of them, and there's a lot of different subtypes of Orthodox. My comment is overly simplified but basically not even all types of Orthodox Jews can have a legal Israeli marriage, it's at the discretion of the rabbinical court.

I also actually didn't know this until now, but looks like other marriages are recognized as long as it's an approved religion, of which Reform, Conservative, Reconstructionist, & Renewal Jews are not.

Israel recognizes only marriages under the faiths of Jewish, Muslim, and Druze communities, and ten specified denominations of Christianity.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_in_Israel

They can all emigrate to Israel, but are not recognized as religiously Jewish. Most Jews in the US are Reform, the second largest group are various types of Orthodox. The chunk of US Jews that are unaffiliated are even larger than the US Orthodox population.

This leads to an odd situation where a huge chunk of Jews that emigrate to Israel are not actually considered religiously Jewish for the purposes of burial or marriage.

There are sects of Orthodox Jews in Israel (mostly Haredi, which is itself also a large umbrella with many subtypes) that are anti-zionist on religious grounds.

[-] nightshade@hexbear.net 62 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is the same guy who was confidently claiming that dozens of American doctors were lying about Gazan children being shot in the head.

CW: X-ray scans of dead children


[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 43 points 3 days ago

As if I needed another reason to hate that guy

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 days ago

International warning sign of a horrible take incoming

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

"the Palestine people" gives me the same reaction as when I see someone talk about "females"

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 60 points 3 days ago

we've progressed beyond opinion-havers that just skim a bunch of wikipedia articles and form a vibes based opinion from that, now they skip straight to vibes-based opinion based on nothing but other people's takes

[-] edge@hexbear.net 43 points 3 days ago

They love to talk about how progressive Israel is with regards to homosexuality, but gay marriage isn't even legal there.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 51 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Libs understanding of any conflict or issue is coincidentally exactly the same as the monologue in their preferred late night show that had to not get censored to be put on air.

Colbert never mentioned that isreal is an apartheid state so that is literally new information to them.

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago

They will also forget this information as soon as they hear the next monologue

[-] SSJ3Marx@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

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[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 53 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Imagine outing yourself as a moron of this caliber publicly

Even your average redditor knows this ffs

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago

Erm, excuse me. Interfaith marriage is antisemitic bc it waters down the ~~white, christian~~ Jewish bloodline

[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 35 points 3 days ago

Anything else would go against the purpose of the ethnoreligious state, namely

spoilerThey must secure the existence of their people and a future for settler children. They're just trying to manifest their destiny of having more room to live.

[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 36 points 3 days ago

isrealL??? is a... BAD count r y?!???/ 😱😱😱😱

[-] Angel@hexbear.net 38 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

What about interracial marriage?

Apparently, Beta Israelis have married Ashkenazi Jews in Isn'trael.

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 36 points 3 days ago

Yeah but aside from that interracial marriage is de facto illegal due to the ban on interfaith marriage

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