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[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 79 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

porky-scared-flipped: “HoW aRe We LoSiNg To ChInA?!?!?”

doomjak: “Hi, I’m gen Z. Are you hiring? We’d like to contribute to the economy.”

porky-happy: “No, fuck off. You need to be unemployed because uhh…Well I’m just not hiring, okay?!?”

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 52 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That moment when you forget labor is the source of all value

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 38 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Capitalists deadass forget this. They hypocritically want senior level employees that are “done” right off the bat but working entry level jobs, then frame their laziness as “high standards”.

Even the CIA has employed both perfectionism and promoting a knowledge hoarding culture (this also includes discouraging older people from retiring and passing the torch down) as sabotage tactics

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

And if you are working, one full time job isn't gonna cover things either.

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 75 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Go figure a planned economy is more efficient than a chaos economy

[–] MamaVomit@hexbear.net 44 points 4 months ago (5 children)

we need a better term than chaos economy because that sounds cool as hell

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 29 points 4 months ago

Clusterfuck Economy or Clusterfuckonomy?

[–] miz@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

Lenin called it anarchy of production

[–] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I kinda like chaos economy versus planned economy. It’s a good frame, I’d argue. Regardless, blind economy versus foreseeing economy?

Edit: I thought closed-eyes economy versus open-eyes economy could also work.

[–] machiabelly@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ponzi economy versus cooperative/common economy

Ponzi versus planned seems like the best slogan

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

white noise machine

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean it's just the "free market" init? I've always liked the term anarchy of production

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The market is free, you are not.

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[–] neo@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s more than just chaos because in many ways this is deliberate self-sabotage directed from the top executive levels. Like trying to stop the spread of a wildfire by building wooden palisades to contain it.

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

wildfire
palisades

👀

[–] miz@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago

lenin-sure anarchy of production

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't think this is a matter of planned vs unplanned, or that we should be focusing on it. The Chinese economy is a market one, with a very strong State presence in key sectors.

The real highlight we need to be making is communist vs capitalist economy. Comrade Indrajit has a pretty good write-up on the same topic here. While I don't always agree with his takes I'm always inspired by his way of communicating clear and principled positions without fear or prevarication.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The only thing America leads on is GDP, which measures its corruption, debt, healthfraud, and constant self-stimulation as positives (which they are not).

China, the communist country, preserves the rational spirit of capitalism while America, the capitalist country, subsidizes one clown car.

(Congress is just an insider trading club now)

China produces cheap, functional EVs and not luxury virtue signalling devices. China produces cheap, efficient AI and not luxury investment vehicles.

America effectively arrived on central planning without planning. A cartel of banks just moves interest rates around, and the government gives them free money to do it. It's all centrally controlled, but without a brainwave among them.

[The "Open" in] OpenAI is just a branding term, but DeepSeek is actually doing it.

Communism has a purpose beyond profit and the economy can be directed for some human (or ideally natural) purpose. Capitalism has no purpose beyond profit, and just removed into fraud.

https://indi.ca/how-communism-is-obviously-outcompeting-capitalism/

Oops all bangers

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[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think this is the way Marxists normally use those terms; I'm confused. No nation has ever reached (full) communism.

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe, but I don't think that we should be shy about using the word communism when the capitalist West is so obviously shitting itself to death for all to see. communism-will-win They already call the mildest succdem reforms communism, might as well own the Ws

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago

If somebody decides to look up communism because capitalists decide to decry all regulations as communism and somebody goes "actually botulism sucks, I wonder if there's something to this communism stuff" that's definitely a win for us.

[–] Biggay@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Our economy is planned, its just planned by morons.

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 64 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] miz@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

2nd panel should be labeled capitalism

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago

:same-picture:

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 54 points 4 months ago (2 children)

another day another

do nothing

win

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago

it's starting to become overwhelmingly successful even

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 52 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Onion: Pentagon Warns China Developing Love, The Greatest Weapon Of All

“Our assessments indicate love is stronger than any technology possessed by the U.S. military,” said Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, pledging to work with Japan, South Korea, Australia, and other regional partners to stop China from harnessing the invincible cosmic force that always emerges victorious. “Intelligence estimates suggest the program is in its final stages, so we must act quickly or love will overwhelm us and we will feel compelled to surrender to it.”

“If China succeeds, it will have the power to remake the global order by spreading universal love and understanding to every corner of the world,” Austin added.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

The Onion out here posting real news

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Unironically, one of the ways that I matured and became more wise as a person was understanding the true power of love.

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago
[–] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

Rare China L

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 50 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

So basically you know how battle royale games forbid teaming because just a small amount of cooperation can give a group of players a massive advantage on individuals?

Well capitalism is run as a battle royale, and China is teaming. And to continue the analogy, it's not just a few people teaming, it's like a quarter of the server with a central operational command to direct everyone from.

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 46 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

deng-smile has got to be laughing at the Americans up there.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

deng-cowboy git along lil doggie

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

In 1979, Deng stated, "Socialism cannot endure if it remains poor. If we want to uphold Marxism and socialism in the international class struggle, we have to demonstrate that the Marxist system of thought is superior to all others, and that the socialist system is superior to capitalism".

I've never been 100% sold on Deng, but I gotta say he's being proven right by China's constant wins at Capitalism's own game.

deng-drip

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 41 points 4 months ago

It's easy, just be mildly competent and organised with a plan that is based in reality. The US is just that incompetent.

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 39 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Y’all are meming meanwhile I’m terrified

China’s Ws are coming in the face of a bloodthirsty capitalist empire

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 46 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

We can meme and be terrified simultaneously, the human mind is a wonderful thing. I'm happy to see the US hegemony weakening, but I have a lot of fear of what the beast may do while going down.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 33 points 4 months ago

I think it's akin to gallows humor. In dark times you need to make humor when you can even if things are horrible :(

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago

deng-cowboy riding that bull market while developing fusion tech howdy-skull

It's called the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism losers!

[–] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 4 months ago

Socialists being better at capitalism than capitalists as always, for socialists actually know how money works

[–] kvltcmrd@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

Chinese century get-ready-to-learn-chinese-buddy

[–] let_me_tank_her@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

did President Xi just save gaming? Can I upgrade my PC without spending thousand of dollars now? Thank you President Xi for giving me the opportunity to play Monster Hunter Wilds

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