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Donald Trump has said he will issue an executive order to mandate identification for all US elections, a move likely to be challenged in court as unconstitutional.

"Voter I.D. Must Be Part of Every Single Vote. NO EXCEPTIONS! I Will Be Doing An Executive Order To That End!!!,” the US president said on Truth Social late on Saturday.

Trump also claimed he wants to ban all voting by mail except for those who are very ill or in military service.

The US constitution grants primary authority to regulate elections to the US states, while empowering Congress to enact election laws or regulations. It gives no explicit authority to the president to regulate voting.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 93 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago
[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 56 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can he just go back to being dead?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

that photo is from tuesday. not sure he ain't

[–] StrawberryPigtails 43 points 5 months ago (5 children)

He can fuck on off. That’s up to the States.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 5 months ago

And admission to the capital is up to the don now.

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[–] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

I like the way the headline implies that he openly admitted that the order would be unconstitutional.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 37 points 5 months ago (7 children)

He'll be dead before the next election.

Bet your house on it.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 67 points 5 months ago

No thanks, betting against this man hasn't worked out for me yet, and I'm much too poor to spare the roof over my head when reality bends over backwards to appease this man again.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] Zagam@piefed.social 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I do but only by right of conquest. Or whatever it's called when your parents die and leave you the house they had their parents help them get.

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[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

House owning guys are betting on shit,,get in

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago

Grant imahara who actually had something to give to this world died in his '50s unexpectedly from an aneurysm.

Don't bet your fucking life on it with how karma doesn't work

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah, because there won't be another election while that shit stain is still alive

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

So sick of just one fucking asshole in this country able to torment millions of us.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cool, and he also will release the unredacted Epstein files like he promised.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Only if we beat it from him like a pinata.

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 29 points 5 months ago

The use of executive orders to rule by decree is itself unconstitutional.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Um, so this IS the party of "small government", yes?

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[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

Hey Donny, that's great and all, but where are the Epstein files? Inquiring minds need to know!

[–] Atomicbunnies@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

EOs arnt laws.. Congress still has to make them into laws.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

There's the legal tactic of: do now and ask for forgiveness never. It works really well when there are no legal consequences.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It works really well when there are no legal consequences.

There are other consequences than legal ones.

[–] Pofski@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

none so far i would say.

[–] Atomicbunnies@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But it isn't even a legal tactic. EOs mean nothing. They are not laws.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 5 months ago

They obviously mean something until they are stuck down, and even then...

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yup, flood the courts and demand appeals whenever judges block things. The goal is to overwhelm the system in the short term. While judges and lawyers are busy setting court dates that are weeks away, the regime will carry on as if the EO is legal.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You don't have to have proof of identity to vote in the US?

[–] impeccablepenguin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

In states that do not require an ID, you still need to present a document with your name. It is then compared with the voter registration database. The argument against requiring an ID is that ID's aren't free in the US, which can cause a financial hurdle for many.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like a solution would be some sort of national ID card provided for free?

[–] xycu@programming.dev 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Republicans and conservatives, historically, have been the biggest opponents of a national ID because they don't want the federal government tracking them or asserting any control over anything.

Until trump, anyway...

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[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 months ago

Yes, but that would actually be a good thing so it's never happened.

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

And there's additional hurdles for more targeted populations, like access to the place that gives you the ID, and the capacity to prove your ID to that place with specific documents that may ormay not exist. It's on purpose.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 14 points 5 months ago

I have. Is all good, yes?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I Will Be Doing An Executive Order

President of the United States.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Trump is way too fucking lazy to press the shift key before every word. I just do not believe that he writes his own tweets. I'd like to see just one video of him visibly typing out a tweet that is then published. I'd bet that if you cross-referenced when his tweets are posted with his golf schedule, you'd find that at least some of them are written by somebody else.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Can we 100% confirmed that Donny actually made this statement and that it wasn’t a body double? And also RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES.

[–] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Fucking hell I hate to even say this, but this might be the first thing he has ever done that I might agree with. But hear me out before you crucify me.

There isn't rampant voter fraud near to the level MAGA claims. They imply it's 50% fraudulent. It's really like 1% or less, and most of that gets caught anyway already.

I do think it is important to validate that the person casting the vote is registered and is the correct person casting the vote. But I would balance that requirement with common sense and I'd make getting any/all valid IDs easy and free (fully tax funded). From DL to Real ID to Military or whatever else. All free. All simple to get. All accessible to do. And I'd also make all elections a national holiday and expand mail in and online voting and early voting. Give people as much margin to get their vote in as possible.

Elections do need security, hell, I'm still not entirely convinced that Elon didn't do SOMETHING nefarious in this last one. He at very least was paying people which is illegal. But we need better encryptions and processes and forms of certifying that the ballots cast were indeed the correct intended vote and ways to go back and validate your own vote in a secure way. Make a portal where you can log in like your bank and see your vote history or something.

While we're at it. Abolish the damn college. Just make it all RCV and be done with all this shit with gerrymandering and arguing over the "least worst' candidate every cycle.

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Much less than 1%. Voter Fraud is so rare that it has no impact on elections. However the Republicans have been trying to pass a federal voter ID law (the SAVE act) which creates substantial barriers for married women who changed their last name from voting. The additional barriers will destroy democracy.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/why-voting-rights-groups-warn-the-save-act-may-make-it-harder-for-married-women-to-vote

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Republicans would never win if they did all that, and Democrats would immediately be seriously challenged by Progressive candidates, so they aren't interested either.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

He does care fuck if it is "legal" or "constitutional". Those terms do no longer exist as criteria.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

This was the plan for the "Real ID" all along

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 5 months ago

Also there will be underwear inspections and all underwear must now be worn on the outside of pants.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 7 points 5 months ago

I'm very ill.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I can't see California ever enforcing this

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