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[-] MaxOS@hexbear.net 97 points 7 months ago

Accept both results the-democrat
Accept Trump win, doubt Biden win frothingfash
Accept Biden win, doubt Trump win maybe-later-honey maybe-later-kiddo
Doubt both results gigachad

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 28 points 7 months ago

the only president i will accept is vladimir lenin

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

All power to the Marxist-Leninist way of life lenin-laugh

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 27 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

"they're probably both gonna fucking steal it" I'm dying

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[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 71 points 7 months ago

i am the 2% of trump voters who would only accept a biden victory

[-] edge@hexbear.net 49 points 7 months ago

Honestly the 1% of Biden voters who would only accept a Trump victory is crazier.

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 29 points 7 months ago

this is categorized by their 2020 vote, presumably they were the fabled Undecideds

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[-] volcel_olive_oil@hexbear.net 67 points 7 months ago

less than a third of voting americans so-far

[-] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 42 points 7 months ago

Yeah the proportion of the adult population who won't or legally can't vote in so-called democracies in the west is fucking huge. In the last US election Biden won with about 24% of the total population voting for him (81 million votes in a country of about 332 million people). In the last UK election the tories had roughly 20% of the total UK population vote for them, and in Canada Trudeau and his lot got about 14% of the total population's vote. It's kind of shocking when you actually look at how little of a country supporting a party it takes to claim democratic legitimacy.

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

On a related note, a fixture of reactionary culture war bullshit across the west has been to make it harder and harder to become a citizen. This is going to lead to an increasing number of residents in Western countries being disenfranchised.

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 61 points 7 months ago

It's me the Joe Biden voter who thinks Joe Biden rigged it. Then again it's probably because I'm not American and voted 35 times.

[-] crosswind@hexbear.net 50 points 7 months ago

A few years ago there was a study where something like 20% of Biden voters said they where “not sure” whether he’s the head of a pedophile cabal.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 33 points 7 months ago

Well, is there proof he isn’t? thonk-cri

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago

Who do I vote for, Bernie or the guy that eats the babies?

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago

To be fair, it's not like he passes the sniff test. And by "the sniff test," I mean he can't not sniff tween girls at public gatherings.

[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

he prolly isn't

he ranks lower than trump for sure

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

It is a harm reducing pedophile cabal. Do you really think Trump would be a better pedophile?

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[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

If non-citizen voters are voting for Biden, I hope that they aren't doing that shit for free and that Biden is paying them!

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 51 points 7 months ago

Even the most brainwormed people know deep down that the US is an oligarchy

[-] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 51 points 7 months ago

Doubt both results kicks ass

[-] grendahlgrendahlgen@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

:morpheus: they are beginning to believe

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago

Exactly one fifth of respondents were neither Biden or Trump voters. Among this invisible category, 25% opted "doubt both results".

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

I legitimately respect "whatever the government says is probably bullshit" way more than all the liberal pontificating about norms or whatever.

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[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 49 points 7 months ago

it sounds like the best way to preserve faith in democracy is to vote for trump

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 45 points 7 months ago

Telling libs to vote Trump to preserve democracy is a great bit

[-] betelgeuse@hexbear.net 44 points 7 months ago

If Biden wins then 57% of those surveyed would accept the results. If Trump wins, 63% of those surveyed would accept the results. So Trump is the better option for social cohesion?

Also it's funny that almost half of the Biden voters would accept either results. If Dems were smart they would tap into that and push them to doubt more. But they're credulous dupes so they all "Well I guess the Fascist won fair and square, we must accept this!"

[-] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Doing that would delegitimize the institutions the Democrats depend on for legitimacy. Not the thing to do when you are the party of order, even if it's a failing order.

[-] Mesophar@lemm.ee 12 points 7 months ago

I think they mean accept as in their belief whether the results were rigged or not. Like the January 6th insurrection. I don't think they mean accept as in "oh, this is completely fine!".

[-] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

January 6th insurrection

I don’t think I’ve heard of this

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

It's the funniest day in the US empire's history

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[-] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 40 points 7 months ago

Shoutouts to the 2% of Russiagate Rs and the 1% of StopTheSteal Ds

[-] RedDawn@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah is that sliver saying they’re going to vote for Biden but doubt it if he wins? Lol

“I’m voting for Joe Biden, and I also think he’s going to steal the election, but that’s a good thing”?

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

Look, if the guy is able to steal an election he's clearly the strongest and most ruthless of the two. I'll rather be on his side than be with the loser nerds.

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[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 38 points 7 months ago

C'mon, Balkanize already

[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago

Are there polls like this for previous elections? Was it always this bad?

[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don't have data to back it up, but seriously doubting the legitimacy of a presidential election was just not a thing before 2000

[-] axont@hexbear.net 50 points 7 months ago

That's not true, it's happened before. The 1876 election for instance was highly contentious and I believe the first time a candidate won the popular vote without winning (Samuel J. Tilden from the Democrats). The election was disputed over a number of things regarding voter fraud, including accusations of disenfranchising black voters. Rutherford B. Hayes ended up winning through a compromise with the electoral commission, in what's called the Compromise of 1877.

Basically, democrats agreed to cede victory to the republicans if union troops were pulled out of the south and reconstruction ended. This was honestly a very shitty idea because it directly led to Jim Crow laws and the structure of segregation that would last until the 1960s.

Hayes was popularly regarded as a fake president in the south, only given the presidency through backroom deals instead of appointment by the consent of voters. The newspapers called him "Rutherfraud B. Hayes" which is honestly a pretty good dunk on his name

[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago

Basically, democrats agreed to cede victory to the republicans

Tale as old as time

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[-] radio_free_asgarthr@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago

New Phase of the Cool Zone dropping. Institutional Legitimacy? What is that?

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago
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[-] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago

2/3rds of Americans smarter than I thought they were

[-] dinklesplein@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago

civil war rerun? PauseChamp

[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago
[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

Seriously "if I win I won and if I lose you cheated"

That's the mentality of a literal child

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