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Senator Lindsey Graham dedicated his life to serving the people of South Carolina and the United States.

Throughout his career, he stood resolutely in defence of democracy and freedom, most recently and particularly with Ukraine and its people.

I offer my condolences to Senator Graham’s family, friends, and all those who served alongside him.

It's real. Apparently Joly and Anand also chimed in.

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[–] Hazzard@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'll just reiterate what I said when Kamala Harris said it:

I understand that it would clearly be unwise politically to be seen celebrating someone's death... but I don't understand why politicians don't simply choose to say nothing more often. I highly doubt anyone on the fence is swayed by her message, or would notice its absence.

Meanwhile, celebrating his life is really off putting to a lot of people who would've voted for Kamala in the last election. How is this a good idea for her?

This seems even dumber.... nobody expects a Canadian politician to jump in here, and frankly, it's an even worse look.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

He....very much did say nothing. Like that's the most generic ass "I told an intern to write a condolence" eulogy I've ever seen. That shit doesn't have one anecdote in it, even though the pacing of the text offers three, maybe even four places for personality.

This right here was some performative respect, and that's putting it nicely.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Well as a private citizen that had no skin in the game, he's just another dead richwhiteman to my brown ass.

[–] asg101@lemmy.ca 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If only they said "despite our disagreements, my heart goes out to the grieving family" or some other tasteful bullshit to dodge it. I'd look the other way, I'd say that politicians do what they have to do.

But they don't. They are straight up sucking up to his corpse for no reason at all. Also, Carney was really happy about the attacks against Iran, so fuck him all over.

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[–] aarch0x40@piefed.social 71 points 4 days ago

Graham was an absolute fucking cunt. The only thing he was ever good at was eating Trump’s ass. Everyone knows he loved going deep on that one.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 61 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

What the absolute fuck, etc. Could have and SHOULD have said nothing.

In case you don't know what Lindsay Graham was, especially in Canadian context, David Doel did a good recap.

[–] funksoulkitchen@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

The last sentence would be acceptable, first two weren't really true

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Carney's playing politics, riling up Trump or the Republicans would just put his statements into the news cycle for weeks and then the 51st rhetoric would go around again.

That being said, yeah, saying nothing sounds good. If it wasn't nothing, I would have preferred him just keep it far more neutral.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He should not have said anything, if he had to I would have really preferred he rilled up the Trump ass eaters. Got Canadians back to the boycott a little more.

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[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

They're so out of touch they actually don't realize how they sound.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago

Politicians are the only invertebrate mammals.

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 26 points 3 days ago (3 children)

oh fuck off Mark. all that good will and optimism from the people you had earlier this year you've quickly squandered. You have quickly turned your party into "The Cons V2" so now we have to rely on the god damn NDP who STILL don't have their shit together.

you're not helping, you didn't need to say anything, Stop ass kissing the US when you were in fucking commercials with mike myers saying "elbows up". fuck off buddy. I TOTALLY regret voting for this ass clown.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

“The NDP don’t have their shit together” brother what the fuck are you talking about? They had an election for a new leader that went really well(ranked-choice voting is awesome) and Lewis is sending out a strong, clear message. They’ve always been available but Canadians fall so easily for the idea that the Liberals are the “default” that we chose 95% of Pierre Poilievre to avoid him instead of raying behind the party that actually demand real change. In 2021, the NDP got well over half the votes that the LPC did but because the seats didn’t work out proportionally everyone just went “the NDP has no support”.

I know you have your regrets, and glad you’ve seen the problem eventually, but deflection isn’t going to help anyone.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago

Lewis is working pretty quickly to make the NDP relevant again. That's why Poilivre is being kept around despite no hope of forming a majority - to drive Canada towards a two party system.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Liberals have been acting like the USA democrat faux progressives for a while. Like when smaller parties started running on voter reform to avoid getting stuck in the same two party 'fascists vs faux opposition' deal that has already turned the states into a corrupt pillaging competition. Liberals suddenly ran on voter reform, and when Trudeau won he was immediately like "oh THAT'S what voter reform means? Oh of course we're not doing THAT lol." and all momentum for voter reform was lost.

Corpo fascists in anti fascist clothing, and local progressives can't seem to gather without chasing all of the effort out of the group with local toe stepping, and god forbid instead of bombs we ever get money put into taking modern understanding of complex systems and using it to scale heterarchical cooperation between non-identical groups with honest progressive intents.

So you have fascists pretending to be progressive, and progressives attacking different kinds of progressives instead of the fascists, and everyone gets mad when you try to make this particular framing more salient.

I got weird looks when I'd originally been asked what I thought about Carney before his election, and I said "he is saying and doing the right things, but I only expect that to last as far as it's opportunistically useful.

He's playing the political game now in a way that legitimizes that fascist regime that keeps threatening our country, and I'm not on the side of 'safely' capitulating to fascist regimes.

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[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 days ago

As someone south of your border, what the fuck

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 36 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The rate at which I am losing respect for this clown, is ludicrous.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

did anyone seriously expect the investment banker to be on any side but status quo?

[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 10 points 3 days ago

I'm curious to see if he makes it past 1 term at this rate. The problem is, now that Libs and Cons are blurring, does the NDP get stronger or was fascism in Canada only briefly delayed?

[–] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I lost all respect for him the moment he started proposing bill C-2 (now C-22) and others.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago

My statement is “rest in piss, bozo”

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Is there a Senator Lindsey Graham in Canada or is this guy just massively stupid?

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

People have been calling Carney a "red Tory" but I think he's actually a 2000s era neoconservative. We've more or less made David fucking Frum our prime minister.

Let us also not forget that Lindsey Graham called for the invasion of Canada at least once. That is apparently what the "right, honourable" Mark Carney considers to be a resolute defender of democracy.

[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Throughout his career, he stood resolutely in defence of democracy and freedom

Didn’t know Mark Cuckey is a former writer for the Beaverton

[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 21 points 3 days ago

Fuck you too, Mark.

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 30 points 4 days ago

Shut up, Mark.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Centrists are just conservatives too afraid of the label

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[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 24 points 4 days ago

Nope. Learn when to keep your mouth shut Mark. This, is not working to unite Canada.

[–] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Strongly disagree with what Carney said, but not sure he could say anything other.

[–] Contrary@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Why the fuck is the Canadian prime minister commenting on the death of an American senator AT ALL??? What a fucking joke.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Shoulda said nothing. I highly doubt anything material and good comes from this message. Saying nothing would've avoided the rest.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

And who the fuck is out there demanding the Canadian PM say something about a relatively old American senator dying of an illness? Literally the only reason to ask for a comment is to try to incite some inflammatory bullshit from one angle or another.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Typical liberal.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago

What an absolute cuck of a prime minister, fuck this guy.

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