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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by BurgerPunk@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net

From a thread asking opinions about emoji usage.

However it happens and whomever is responsible here we are... and we're losing ground fast. And things like emojis are leading the charge.

Should we tell them @WhyEssEff@hexbear.net is responsible?

Link: https://hexbear.net/comment/4277133

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[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 101 points 11 months ago

Honestly fuck everything about that comment but especially fuck how this person seems to think that Egyptian hieroglyphics were in any conceivable way a "primitive" writing system, as opposed to a writing system so multifaceted and complicated it took the literal Rosetta Stone as well as the comparative method with Coptic and Proto-Afro-Asiatic to decipher it and understand its inner workings.

For that matter fuck that this person thinks that cave paintings are a "primitive" art form. It's like, oh wow imagine using the bumps in cave walls to create depth and the flicker of torchlight to create the illusion of animation. Imagine painstakingly manufacturing the paint used. Imagine coordinating a community effort to help document and illustrate its own oral history using iconography that we can only theorize about. Couldn't be me!

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 64 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If anything, the problem with hieroglyphics is they weren't simple enough. They were designed to be used by a priestly class and nobody else. Then even that priestly class thought it was too annoying to draw a whole ass picture for a syllable or a number and they invented hieratic cursive to greatly simplify the writing process.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 35 points 11 months ago

Then Cuneiform was like "Hey, waht if we took simple arrangements of dashes and triangles and made them in to a completely illegible cluttered mess?

Saw an older biker looking guy with some viking tattoos and I was trying to sus out if he was fashy, then saw the cuneiform tattoo and was like "Oh, he's just a history dork we're cool". He had some pagan stuff on, too, but it was a mixture of older new-agey stuff that you don't really see on the fashy neo-thoraboos.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Then Cuneiform was like "Hey, waht if we took simple arrangements of dashes and triangles and made them in to a completely illegible cluttered mess?

nerd Sumerian cuneiform might slightly predate predate hieroglyphics, and is ugly because of the limitations of the medium. Digging out the book I have about this:

David Burton - The History of Mathematics An Introduction (2005)

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[-] LordBullingdon@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago

Me on acid: You ever think about how ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs are actually just emoji’s?

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[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 68 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I love these dorks that say something vibes-based and subjective that they made up and act like it's the most scientific fact in the world.

Humans communicate through multiple ways, Mostly through body language. When one fails to accurately describe what we want to communicate we use the other. This is normal and I would be more concerned if we only used one form of communication.

It's just more supremacy bullshit. There always has to be something dominating to these people.

[-] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 65 points 11 months ago

Cultural degeneration theory, huh. Wonder where that worldview leads

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 48 points 11 months ago

Western civilization is about admiration of statues bleached by time and corrosion until the garish paint that was once there is gone. The more admiration of statues bleached by time and corrosion until the garish paint that was once there is gone, the more civilized. so-true

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If you look at the history of aesthetics, you will notice that people in nearly all cultures for the most of history, literally except west and westernized ones (and even that just in the last 300 years), simply loved garish colours. Only thing standing between people and having everything in garish colours was poverty.

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Uncritical support to @WhyEssEff@hexbear.net in her mission to personally destroy western civilization via emojis

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 55 points 11 months ago

Phonetic Writing and its consequences have been a disaster for man kind. The Barbarians of the west were never meant to read and write. The Caucasoid brainpan simply can not comprehend logography. Innumerable horrors have been meted upon mankind as a result of their acquisition of the pen. /s

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 11 months ago

I don't think english can be even called "phonetic" at this point.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 48 points 11 months ago
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[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 53 points 11 months ago

Same person who responded like this when proven categorically wrong:

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 52 points 11 months ago
[-] envis10n@hexbear.net 34 points 11 months ago

I'm on the cover of a MAGAZINE!

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 32 points 11 months ago

Renowned daily publication, Hexbear.

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[-] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 49 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 39 points 11 months ago

How's it feel to be singlehandedly responsible for so much coping, seething, and malding? sans-troll

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[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 48 points 11 months ago

waxes lyrical about the degradation of language, blissfully unaware that olds have been doing exactly that since the invention of the written word

doesn't know how to use whom or a semicolon

least stupid prescriptivist

Death to America

[-] laziestflagellant@hexbear.net 47 points 11 months ago

yeah everyone knows that since the advancement of language, there has never been a use for photos or illustrations

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 46 points 11 months ago

It's almost as if Reddit-style smug passive-aggressive sarcasm with a sufficiently cromulent number of big words and pretenses of ironic detachment and logicbro LARPing are the height of "peak human." smuglord

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago

Chuck Wendig is proof that access to a thesaurus is not a human right. Tangential, but as a word “cromulent” has been forever tarnished by him.

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[-] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 43 points 11 months ago

Whines about language degenerating.

Can't even use whom right.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 43 points 11 months ago

Oh look a prescriptivist.

tequila-sunset arthur-punch badeline-jokerfied susie-laugh

[-] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Written English isn't really a phonetic language. It's a logographic script utilizing 26 radicals to make characters. While these radicals give clues to pronunciation, English learners largely have to memorize the pronunciation of each character. galaxy-brain

[-] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 38 points 11 months ago
[-] context@hexbear.net 38 points 11 months ago

stalin-approval a beautifully rendered reply

@WhyEssEff@hexbear.net all of your hard work does not go wasted rat-salute-2

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[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 38 points 11 months ago

Meanwhile, in Japanese:

A: "An owl is a bird on a tree, how shall we write it?"

B: "How about a bird 鳥 standing on a tree 木?"

A: "Splendid, 梟 it is"

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 11 months ago

Technically, that was a Chinese thing and then Japanese copied it.

Meanwhile, sometime before Unicode 9:

A: “梟 is cool but I’ll forget what it means. How else could we write it?”

B: “How about 🦉?”

A: “Splendid, get to work, font makers!”

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[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 37 points 11 months ago

smuglord "And while we're at it, fuck graphs too! Is it so hard to not succumb to cultural decadence by simply listing off each data point and trend line using words like a civilized being?!"

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[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 11 months ago

Lmao even standard Unicode emojis can also be fun. Check this shit out:

log(😅) = 💧log(😄)

Still this doesn't hold a candle to what Hexbear offers.

[-] dumpster_dove@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Unicode is different from hexbear in that they have sexually explicit emojis while hexbear has volcel-judge

nsfwShrek blowjob 🤮

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[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 35 points 11 months ago

This person can't be more than like 14 years old.

[-] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 34 points 11 months ago

It me your average emoji enjoyer

amber-snacking biden-rember nicholson-yes

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[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago

NO MORE WORDS. Society has advanced beyond the need for words

Want to communicate details with clarity? We have a tool for that, it's called PICTURES

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[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago

Who knew all I needed to do to end civilization was post tito-laugh when I'm happy and miku-gun when it's time to roll out the gayroller-2000

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago

xi-plz eliminate the roman alphabet and make everyone write in hanzi

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[-] GorbinOutOverHere@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago

@HowMany@lemmy.ml is the shitlib who was all "CHINA? DON'T THEY MAKE ALL THE WORLD'S AIR POLLUTION??" and then when I was like "hey dipshit they also make all the world's stuff" he came back like a week later with some dumb fuck comment

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[-] DayOfDoom@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago

Synthesizing their post into my understanding of the current bug menace.

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[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 26 points 11 months ago

when the speakers of Germanic languages were huddled together in mud huts Egypt was a great empire

not even going to elaborate on the obvious brainworms contained in the idea that English speakers are more human than others

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