Liberals said the exact same shit during the civil rights movement i.e. MLK was a Russian asset and being controlled by the CCCP etc.
Hell, they killed ~~Bobby Seale~~ Huey, (never history before morning coffee) because he actually met the Chinese comrades of his time; and they couldn't have a Black leader bringing communism to the hood
EDIT now that I've got a cup of ACTUAL coffee in me and not some watered down, burnt, gas station turpentine, lemme get more into this because I've got a pet theory. The Panthers meeting our Chinese comrades is the entire reason why COINTELPRO has only continued, intensified, and evolved in the decades since-- because it all boils down to 'they can't have anyone bringing communism to the hood'.
Back in the day, they had the shit locked down. The internet wasn't like that yet; we couldn't have whole-ass discussions, debates, arguments, and flame wars over theory or sects. The knowledge base wasn't out there yet, you had to be into some scholarly shit in the first place, or know somebody who jumped you in, to even be talking like we are now. The genie's out of the bottle now; and they CANNOT AFFORD another movement as large as or as motivated as the Panthers were. They can't have another community-based, community-focused mutual aid network like that again, because these theories are the next step.
This is why they train our misleaders to make the concept of seeking liberation sound corny. This is why the misleaders push "Black Excellence™", "Black Capitalism", and all that happy assimilation-reformist bullshit. Part of why the 'hotep' discourse is a thing. (I'm not gonna play around and act like some of it isn't some members of our community actually being corny about it; but I don't believe that sentiment came from the ground up.) This is why they locked up the Uhuru 3, and made 61 political prisoners under RICO charges in Georgia. This is why they still infiltrate our organizations, lock up our leaders, and kill the ones they know won't comply. They can't afford another.
As a black American, I gotta side with fantastic-nonsense (totally inaccurate username BTW 'cause they spittin' straight fax) here.
I have been targeted by Russia to act as a disinformation agent against Biden and play a part in him losing the election. It sucks to know that libs like this user are waking up to this truth, and now I gotta deal with that.
I figured their ~~word salad~~ genius take on matters would be too enlightened for you all to understand, so I just thought I'd clear it up here and now with my firsthand experience as a certified black American Russian bot. Thank you.
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I still cannot understand the “russian bots sabotaged Hillary’s election” narrative. She won the popular vote by several millions, lost the electoral college by like 10. Did the KGB invent the electoral college? Because it seemed like an ordinary election with the exception of the funny candidates
I genuinely feel like i’ve lost my mind because whenever this topic comes up, no one seems to acknowledge this. Not even people here. Am i missing something? Am I missing the big picture when I point out Hillary literally won and still lost and that tankies or bernie bros or putler bots couldnt’t sway shit? Unless they assume Hillary would’ve won 5 million more votes if the bernie bros didn’t have allegiance to russia and caused her the electoral votes? What am i missing?
It's more because liberals will use the electoral college to make their point in a way. In their Russia fantasy the disinformation campaign influenced enough swing state voters to turn the electoral vote in favor of Trump.
They'll even acknowledge that the electoral college is flawed (they've been on that spiel ever since the 2000 election), but they won't ever actually make a push to reform or completely get rid of it because they also wholeheartedly believe American institutions are damn near infallible.
They'll even acknowledge that the electoral college is flawed (they've been on that spiel ever since the 2000 election)
Yeah libs used talk about the EC, now their go to obsession is "first past the poll"/ranked choice. Every vote evangelist is flogging this as a magic bullet to save what they think is democracy
I love the irony in the cognitive dissonance:
"Everyone believes they are immune to propaganda." - Group of Redditors buying into blatant propaganda.
Yes, it's Russian propaganda that caused Hillary to lose, and not her unmasked contempt for anyone not completely adherent to neoliberal ideology. The success of the previously unknown Bernie's campaign should have been a wake up call to at least act like you could play nice with the more progressive folks. Bernie was never going to be the VP pick, but there were a handful of others that would have been at least throwing a bone to that part of the base.
Nope, she picks Tim "Pro Life" fucking Kaine, but it was Russian ops that convince those Michigan voters to pick Stein.
IMO both things are true. Yes she won the popular vote undeniably, however that doesn't excuse her disastrous campaign, most of the time Trump would not have been even close and the electoral college issue is something they as Adults In The Room^tm^ should have taken into account when propping up Trump. At this point it is all academic debate anyway, like going back and looking at what they did wrong etc.
The point is yes she won, but it should not have been that close and it wasn't an upset or unlikely result, it is now understood it was just their incompetence overall.
The same thing is happening right now too, Biden should be far more popular than Trump under almost every scenario except for the fact Dems keep making incredibly dumb decisions, almost as if they don't want to win...
I'm not racist, I just think everything is a conspiracy by specifically Asian countries. Doesn't matter which. Just any country I'd see as having special magical abilities a couple centuries ago.
Liberals try not to infantilise and dismiss the experiences of minorities challenge: impossible.
As Matt said once before his health issues, if Russia and or China can just manipulate the people of the US with the disinformation and influence elections then they've already won. Pack it up. They got us.
I said it then and I'll say it now...
If a handful of memes from Russian for-profit bot farms seeking Facebook ad revenue can almost topple 'the greatest democracy in the history of the world' then it ain't worth shit and you just pack it up now.
To add to that: if countries like Russia actually can influence US elections by manipulating platforms like Facebook....what does that say about the influence companies like Facebook have themselves?
Tumblr users be like:
Pith aside, I'm going to need crackers to knock this kind of bullshit, especially this "Black users were SPECIFICALLY TARGETED by the Ruzzian Orc Bots" tack they're on now right the fuck off; because this is the exact play that the feds have been running persecuting the Uhuru 3. Isn't it Amazing how hella white people can act up, attempt to steal an election, and trample down the halls of the Capitol building screaming about how they're gonna lynch everybody from AOC to Mike Pence, have FUCK ALL done to them, but the minute a Black soul stands against the settler empire's intractable wars, genocides, and colonizing, they get FBI raids, federal charges, and being labeled a "Russian asset"?
Deadass if Cuba, Russia, China, Vietnam, or Ghana offered to pay my one-way ticket out and set me up with a job on my landing? If I was entering their country as a defector or refugee? I'd do it in a heartbeat, and the next time anyone saw me I'd be Yeonmi Parking this country of crackers. "Their food security is so bad that when a family patriarch hits a possum on the freeway, they talk about feasting for a week." I could do her job.
I'd do it in a heartbeat, and the next time anyone saw me I'd be Yeonmi Parking this country of crackers.
"In America, crackers will see videos of state forces abusing black people and then, with a straight face, tell you that if you have a problem with it the Russians have gotten you."
Except unlike Yeonmi Park, you could just tell the truth about amerikkka and it would be 100x worse than the fabrications they make about the DPRK.
Oh they have labour camps and execute people? Don't look up US prison labour or stats on police killings. At least the citizens of the DPRK are jacked from taking turns pushing that train around.
I mean, there definitely were like a couple bots reposting the same comments on twitter, but that's always been the case for anything and everything.
I wish I could remember the figure, but basically the entirety of the Mueller Report came down to "yeah, we found russian meddling. They spent about 2000$ on facebook ads" and libs were like "SEE?! The russians are AtTaCkInG"
If Americans don't want foreign agitators to take advantage of racial tensions maybe America could try not being so fucking racist
Yea, comparatively, the ClA funded racial terrorist stabbings and bombings in China and even that completely failed compared to "Tumblr Russian bots"
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user: I hate this!
bot: I hate this too!
asshole: SEE SEE!!! A BOT MADE YOU THINK YOU HATED THIS!
Didn't Facebook release a study on this spooky Russian disinfornarskaya or whatever, and it turned out to have been basically a single percentage of all Trump related content?
I remember several studies, all the ones done by firms that weren't getting paid by the DNC, showed that the actual impact of Russian bot farms was actually very minuscule. If you ever checked any of the linked posts that came from the bot farms you'd often see engagement often in the hundreds to low thousands. Nothing that was as widespread as the MSM reported.
Similarly for Twitter:
The emails inadvertently suggest how marginal and ineffective the accounts that were genuine Russian disinformation efforts actually were. Describing Russian accounts they’d purged in advance of voting in 2020, one internal email reports some decidedly underwhelming figures: 345 had been inactive, and the ten that were active “had little reach and low follower counts.”
[...] In fact, much of the supposedly suspicious activity had nothing to do with adversarial governments at all. The FBI repeatedly passed on suspicions and forwarded news articles alleging sinister foreign hands behind the George Floyd protests, the existence of pro-Trump African Americans, and various suspect accounts, only to be told they were all of domestic origin. One analyst “found no links to Russia,” they wrote, and neither did another worker who carried out a thorough double-check. “I can brainstorm with [redacted] and see if we can dig even deeper and try to find a stronger connection,” the analyst helpfully offers.
Liberals would much rather demonize a huge percentage of their intended base than actually admit that they suck ass on their own merits
I'm reminded of this map a Blairite drew a couple years back to link Russian interference with "the black community".
These people, they do not believe in reality and objective truth, they only believe what they are told. In that way they act closer to bots than any “russian bot” on the internet ever could.
These fucking libshits will bang on about Russian bot influencing the election and fail to address many of the real things that were happening to marginalized communities. And that's not even going into the fact that the real impact of these botfarms was minimal at best.
Libs will erase history when its convenient. They'll act as if they didn't demean the issues black and other people of color faced during the 2016 election by waving them off as "being influenced by Russian botfarms". They'll act as if they didn't act like they thought the BLM protests would cost Biden the election because it'd make people think Democrats couldn't keep the protests in their cities in line. They'll act as if they didn't blame BLM for their mediocre performance in the midterm elections.
"This pernicious water keeps seeping into my boat through all these holes"
"In that case are you going to repair the holes, or at least stop drilling more?"
"How much is Water paying you you fucking bot shill"
Reminder: This November it will have been 8 long years of liberals desperately coping with the 2016 general election.
"People were criminally charged for it! That means it definitely happened, like the ritual satanic abuse at McMartin preschool."
That one BLM Facebook group that was allegedly linked to a Russian bot farm really riled liberals up. How many Facebook users even liked or followed the page?
Imagine adding the hashtag Tumblr history with full sincerity thinking you’re preserving the record and preventing the erasure of real events that mattered.
They are both partially correct
We knew about cambridge analytica in 2018, of course russia would try something similar, but the greatest success of their campaign was to turn everyone into a russian bot
Most of the somewhat attributable bot tweets were so obvious bait that they weren't even that effective, but after the discourse started, every political discussion devolved into a cpusa meeting circa red scare and mkultra
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